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Title: A Chopping Idea
Post by: kid1293 on December 07, 2017, 06:09:40 AM
Hi!
I want to use what I learned during my two years here.
Why not add storage directly to a small wood chopper?
Perfect among a some houses.

Of course, it can be made into an industrial building with
lots of people working and huge space.

Ideas?


edit - It works exactly as it should, you can test it if you want.
edit 2 - It does not work when full of firewood. read on....
Title: Re: A Chopping Idea
Post by: Maldrick on December 07, 2017, 06:59:21 AM
That's awesome @kid1293 !

This is exactly the kind of thing I love.  Lot of times I'll customize a woodcutter yard with your Log Depot as the main building and use choppers in the yard...some stockpiles with covers and put a fence around it.

Looks great.  I'll give it a look presently. Thank you.
Title: Re: A Chopping Idea
Post by: Maldrick on December 07, 2017, 07:02:56 AM
Full disclosure....I just downloaded the PNG :P
Title: Re: A Chopping Idea
Post by: kid1293 on December 07, 2017, 07:18:46 AM
 :D

It is also nice.  ;D ;D
Title: Re: A Chopping Idea
Post by: Abandoned on December 07, 2017, 07:34:16 AM
Taking a break?  Then out chopping wood  ;D  Fantastic chopper and shed, great idea.  :)
Title: Re: A Chopping Idea
Post by: Necora on December 07, 2017, 07:38:18 AM
This has not been tried before? If I remember correctly it will work, until the storage limit is full, then no more wood will be chopped? I guess if you have a storage larger than the flag limit then it works, and for something such as firewood where there is only 1 item using that flag it is OK to manage, but if you did it on something that had multiple items using the storage flag it can get filled up with them and stop the place from working. That is if I remember correctly...
Title: Re: A Chopping Idea
Post by: Maldrick on December 07, 2017, 07:46:00 AM
Love it :)

Not sure I've seen storage in a production building work like that.
Title: Re: A Chopping Idea
Post by: brads3 on December 07, 2017, 07:47:30 AM
didn't you actually make 1 similar a longh time ago? with a cover over the chopper and an added storage spot. i am thinking it was with the garden shed section of your downloads. 1 of those small tidbit mods that are neat but hide in different sections. i remember trying to download it once a long time ago.
Title: Re: A Chopping Idea
Post by: brads3 on December 07, 2017, 07:51:28 AM
to add to NECORA and MALDRICK. it has been tried but modding has advanced since. the 1 i remember might have been a 2 piece mod.the cover and shed as 1 and a 1x1 or 2x2 chopped piece.i wanta say it was like a 5x3 mod.
Title: Re: A Chopping Idea
Post by: kid1293 on December 07, 2017, 07:51:50 AM
I haven't tried it before. Will have to test when reaching limit/ storage full /...
I guess wood cutter will remove firewood when full (and make room for logs)
that is his prime concern.
Title: Re: A Chopping Idea
Post by: Abandoned on December 07, 2017, 07:52:08 AM
@brads3 the covering mod has the storage units that can be place under the roof and with larger roof cover you can place tiny chopper or workplace pieces also.

KidYardCover
Title: Re: A Chopping Idea
Post by: RedKetchup on December 07, 2017, 08:01:30 AM
yeah i think when the storage will be full 100% firewood, wont have any space to put the log in and cut more wood. and you cant take the firewood out to make more space to fill in... without demolish the building and reclaim once empty.

the building will block cause the storage full even if you have a million of stockpile empty.
Title: Re: A Chopping Idea
Post by: kid1293 on December 07, 2017, 08:02:53 AM
Will have to test that!!

Right RK, when full they will simply abort job and do not move firewood.
Too bad. It was a good idea. :)

This idea suspended. WIll have to go back to think-tank.
Title: Re: A Chopping Idea
Post by: brads3 on December 07, 2017, 09:26:19 AM
there was 1 similar in design to the fenceless pasture shed. maybe the storage was decoration only. was like a year and a half ago.
http://worldofbanished.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=1189.0;attach=11096;image
Title: Re: A Chopping Idea
Post by: kid1293 on December 07, 2017, 10:11:45 AM
The shed is an edited pasture shed I made for queryeverything.
It is just to be able to test this idea.
I can see now it has probably been tested before.
There is no solution to storage problems.

Wood cutters and bannies fill it up with firewood. When full everything dies out.
A storage has to be separate from the production or it will sooner or later interfere.

Title: Re: A Chopping Idea
Post by: Turis on December 07, 2017, 12:27:52 PM
Sometimes you have to step out of the box to fix a problem. At what point does the woodchopper take the firewood to storage?
Title: Re: A Chopping Idea
Post by: kid1293 on December 07, 2017, 12:54:31 PM
He carries what he chopped and dumps it when getting new logs to chop.
Title: Re: A Chopping Idea
Post by: Turis on December 07, 2017, 02:46:14 PM
In reality when he runs out of spots where the firewood is collected. He goes to each spot to pick them up and goes back to chop wood if there are logs there and his personal inventory isn't full yet.
Title: Re: A Chopping Idea
Post by: kid1293 on December 07, 2017, 02:55:04 PM
Hmm. for this to have any impact he has to carry a years supply of firewood
and the whole storage test is useless...

I also tried with herbalist and got even worse things happening if I put storage declaration
in code before herbalist declaration. If I changed order no herbs were collected
but stored in building. The game has only one function per building. I think it is hardcoded.
Title: Re: A Chopping Idea
Post by: Turis on December 07, 2017, 03:57:31 PM
You could design decorations to be used as storage.
Title: Re: A Chopping Idea
Post by: kid1293 on December 07, 2017, 11:12:29 PM
Oh, there are plenty of options if I want to make models. ;)
I could make small ghosted storage units to be placed on wood chopper area.
If used alone they are 'cheats' but in context they would work.
There is a lot still waiting to be done. Maybe by me, some day...  :D
Title: Re: A Chopping Idea
Post by: RedKetchup on December 08, 2017, 04:54:37 AM
Quote from: kid1293 on December 07, 2017, 11:12:29 PM
Oh, there are plenty of options if I want to make models. ;)
I could make small ghosted storage units to be placed on wood chopper area.
If used alone they are 'cheats' but in context they would work.
There is a lot still waiting to be done. Maybe by me, some day...  :D

^^ i already did that, dont remember ? lol

rk firewood storage.
Title: Re: A Chopping Idea
Post by: kid1293 on December 08, 2017, 05:17:52 AM
@RedKetchup - sorry I didn't see longer than my own nose.  ;)

Of course there are a lot of possibilities. Your mod is super, RK!
I have succesfully made wood chopper with log storage where bannies
drop their logs. An easy way to save some space and some time.

I still haven't found any building that is not 'specialized'.
Everything Luke made has it's own hardcoded purpose. Chapel, hunter, fisherman...
Title: Re: A Chopping Idea
Post by: ancientmuse on December 10, 2017, 05:41:44 PM
Quote from: RedKetchup on December 08, 2017, 04:54:37 AM
Quote from: kid1293 on December 07, 2017, 11:12:29 PM
Oh, there are plenty of options if I want to make models. ;)
I could make small ghosted storage units to be placed on wood chopper area.
If used alone they are 'cheats' but in context they would work.
There is a lot still waiting to be done. Maybe by me, some day...  :D

^^ i already did that, dont remember ? lol

rk firewood storage.


Yes, I love your firewood storage mod.  I use it all over the place as firewood storage spots right next to the wood chopper, as well as a nice decorative touch on the sides of houses/buildings.

Discrepancy also has a great firewood storage mod that's included in his 107 updated small village storage mod package (the one that has the viking storage cellar).  It's a 2-tile wide cover (and 1-tile deep), on one side it's firewood storage and on the other side it has a blank space that fits kid's tiny chopper perfectly.