World of Banished

Kid - Animal Shed Plus V2.11

V1.01 - Added a Meadow to get some more thatch.
Also added a backyard Thatch Patch.
If you want RK's flowers you better put RKEC above this mod.
I have kept the flower models but they give only thatch.

V1.02 - Edited inputs in all Sheds. Now they do not need as much
food to produce their things. (I halved it for most)

V2.0 - Added Chickens and a Kitchen to make more food.
Also added 3 Greenhouses 'Soup vegetables, Grain, and Salsa vegetables'

V2.1 - Added a Corn Crib and a Baker. Some minor changes in menus.

V2.11 - Adjusted the Thatch Patch to be faster.

http://worldofbanished.com/index.php?action=downloads;sa=view;down=613 (http://worldofbanished.com/index.php?action=downloads;sa=view;down=613)

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So right after I posted a request for another dairy, here one is!

The description on the download page says the animals all have to be fed, but what do they eat? 

The animals must be fed but not all the same - each has one food that can be gathered and one food that can be raised in crop field or Kid Farmyards.

Sheep - wheat, wild oats, or thatch =wool

Goats & Cows - corn, wild oats, or thatch = goat milk or milk

Pigs -  roots or potatoes  -pig food choice must be decided before building 1 of 2 pig sheds - there is no drop down menu because there are 2 outputs = pork & leather

Thanks.  I think thatch is from RKEC?  I've never used it.  I might have a fodder farmer building, is that the same?

@Goblin Girl   I used Kid Wildlife Start with grass which is same RK thatch.  If your fodder farmer building is RK then it will work.  Kid Westward Ho prairie also has grass that will work.  The wild oats is from (Kid) New Flora Edit.

Thanks!  At this point I have so many mods that off the top of my head I'm not sure I have all those.  I will check.

@Goblin Girl You do not need those mods if you do not already have them, you do not need to feed the animals thatch or wild oats if you do not have them.

Feed the sheep wheat, the goats and cows corn, and feed the pigs potatoes or roots, all are vanilla food that can be grown or gathered.   All but the roots are also in Kid Farmyards.

A very beautiful set! Love the variations on the shed input and output of products.
Thanks kid1293 & Abandoned.

Quote from: Abandoned on October 15, 2020, 12:36:25 PM
@Goblin Girl You do not need those mods if you do not already have them, you do not need to feed the animals thatch or wild oats if you do not have them.

Feed the sheep wheat, the goats and cows corn, and feed the pigs potatoes or roots, all are vanilla food that can be grown or gathered.   All but the roots are also in Kid Farmyards.

Thanks, I'll do it that way.  I still have megamod loaded, even though there are very few parts of it that I actually use.  It does include wild oats, so maybe it has the thatch grower too.  I use it for the starting conditions, the UI changes, the crops, the deco stuff, and RK's medieval blacksmith.  Other than that, I use Kid's stuff.  It's essentially bloatware.

Hello! The new buildings are good, thank you. Is that mod compatible with other mods like Animal Shed - Cheese, Animal Shed SA v2, or are they no longer needed?

You can use them to simplify the cheese-making and if you are fine with not feeding the animals. :)
There are more options in this new Mod.

They all work together.

@kid1293 Thank you for the response. Then I'd rather use this mod.

@kid1293  :(the page shows up but I can't get to the gun, eg. kid -Animal shed Plus 4 -there is such a message if someone else has the same problems as me - someone has virused the site if you can answer me, please reply to me at the post office orzeszko @ poczta.onet.pl

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@kid1293 ;D ;D ;DThank you very much, the website is unlocked and now works fine OK

Hi. A small update for a Thatch Meadow.
Good, if there is no thatch on the map.

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Nice add on, Kid. The meadow is one of my favourite features in RKEd. Fits very good in this mod, too.

But you should take a look at the balancing, it's not so nice.

I had one thatch patch and one big meadow. I've been taken a lot of nomads and everyone in this area is uneducated, so the output might be a bit higher with educated workers but anyway:

The patch gave about 120 thatch with 2 workers, the large meadow with 3 workers 160. About the same amount for each worker, no matter how large the area is. The only reason to build a large meadow would be its beauty and that's fine with me.

But the big problem; these 5 workers produce together 280 thatch. That's just enough to feed the goat tended by 1 worker. It produced 480 milk last year with uneducated workers. For that you need 240 thatch. That's less than 100 food for each worker involved in this.

If I had grown corn on a normal field (or your corn patch) one farmer could easily have produced the double amount to feed goats tended by 2 workers. I would have preferred that it's rather an advantage to produce hay for the animals.

How could this be solved?

The easiest way is if you need less hey to feed the animals. With 2 thatch for 16 milk you would need 60 thatch. That's about the production of one worker. More reasonable but it would still be less profitable to use thatch than farmed corn and only give an average of 240 ford for each worker involved. If you use 1 thatch for 16 milk, 1 thatch farmer could produce hay for goats tended by 2 herdsman. Now we are in the same range as with corn.

Of course, you could also increase the production of thatch to the same level for one worker as for corn. That would give the same effect.

Sorry for complaining but I think you want to see your mods good balanced, too.

:) I want them balanced but now I am so tired I can not think straight.

Jag ska tänka på det! Ha det bra :)

@kid1293 I did another test, on a test map with Fair climate

Year 1 - Goat shed 2 workers =352 milk, Patch 2 workers =196 thatch,  Meadow 2 workers 0 thatch (logs, stone, flax, branches)

Year 2 - Goat shed 1 worker = 400 milk,  Patch 1 worker = 123 thatch,  Meadow 2 workers 114 thatch (logs, stone +)

Year 3 - Goat shed 1 worker = 576 milk,  Patch 1 worker = 138 thatch,  Meadow 2 workers 169 thatch (logs +) surplus 28 thatch


Production increase would seem over powered for small patch - actually I think 2 workers on small patch is too many, 2 workers to care for a few goats  :-\  Slight decrease in required thatch and wild oats in animal sheds not a bad idea.  Previous story I did a lot of micromanaging feeding thatch and wild oats to animals.

It seems like you would like a bit less input in the Sheds.
I have uploaded a new version where I halved most of the required food.
Now it will be easier to use the Sheds from the beginning.
I left 2 workers in the Patch. (I simply forgot to change it) :)

Thanks @Nilla for another look at the numbers.  I think input reduction will be good.  I agree meadow with flowers is beautiful, I first started getting flowers after 3 years of growth.  Kid Wildlife Starts has some choices with grass - the thatch that spawns on the map. 

@kid1293 ;D ;D ;D Thank you very much . You like to add something new - great idea .Cheers

Hi @taniu - I hope all is well and that spring will come soon :)

@kid1293 ;D We have changeable weather, it rains or snows once, my wife and I are still struggling with the effects of the flu, but it's much better, I hope you're okay? - we wait in line for vaccination against COVID - 19. I miss spring sunny weather, I love green trees, colorful flowers added to the last mod - Animal Shed Plus and other decorative mods you released. We are glad to have a soul mate in you, even though we live far apart. Cheers ;D

happy to see people still want some works i ve done :) meadows are so beautiful :)

 :) oh Mr. @RedKetchup You have made some beautiful mods for this game, but really, your meadows are your masterpiece.  :)  Just absolutely beautiful.  :)

@RedKetchup not only created beautiful flowers, but also improved the added new texture of fruit trees, crops, grass, forest trees and plants, created a beautiful and fantastic Editor where we can see a really beautiful forest, many .... beautiful mods and decorative mods . Me and my wife are very grateful for all the work @ Redketchup by the way - wish he had finished the last mod about Egypt - beautiful buildings and decorations but we consider @ Kedketchup a good friend, guardian who helps and advises on various problems with the game Banished. Greetings ;D ;D ;D

thanks you for the kind words my friends :)

maybe one day i ll continue the egypt one. for the moment i still have too much pleasure to play World of Warcraft Classic.
playing 16hrs+ per day.

An Egypt mod??? Oh man don't tease us. :)

@katbarf  find beta 2  RK Rise of the Pharaohs mod here:

http://worldofbanished.com/index.php?topic=1108.msg63432#msg63432

@Abandoned thank you! I know what I'll be doing over the weekend. :)

Hi.

The Animal Shed Plus is updated to V2.1.

Read Abandoned's blog here (http://worldofbanished.com/index.php?topic=4083.0) for info and pictures.

LOVE the new additions, @kid1293!

Kid ;D ;D ;D Thank you very much

Hi.
I have uploaded a small edit of the Thatch Patch. It is now faster.
Important since the Thatch gives only 1-2 in every batch.

I love this mod.  My current town is using v2.1.  Can I switch it over to the new version or does it require starting a new town?  My only other comment is that the chicken & cow shed outputs seem low compared to the other items.  I would think that they would be higher since you have to provide food for them.

Hi.
Chances are that you have to rebuild the Thatch Patch before the new numbers will work.

Hm. I know I have missed some balancing in the outputs. Is it very off?

OK, I will demolish the thatch patches in my current town & then load the new version b4 rebuilding them.  Will let you know if it works.
Regarding balancing, the goat shed is making about 1175 goat milk per year with 2 workers. The cow shed is less than 300 milk with 2 workers.  Have not tried the beef production, but I will switch it over & see what it does.  Don't recall the exact numbers on the chicken shed but both the chicken & egg production numbers were very low so I idled the facility.

Yes, the cows' shed produces beef too. It comes in batches of 160-200.
The same time it takes to produce 16 milk.
I can not lower the time because of overproducing beef.

:) If you are hungry (or thirsty) get used to goat milk. ;)

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The chickens - I made the Chickens twice as fast and uploaded a new file
with the same name. Just download again and rebuild the Chickens.
That is all I can do now. I do not want to take the mod apart and edit it.

@kid1293 We did adjust and test and retest numbers.  Players must be sure workers live close by, storage is close by,. and there is a steady supply and delivery of the feed required.

Also should note that these animal sheds are not meant to replace or be as productive as a full size animal pastures, they are small sheds good for cold climates and mountain maps were space for pastures and fields are limited.  We added meat products and greenhouses in this update.

Done is done. (I like chicken) :)




It was a bit slow...

 :)  I like chicken too  :)  We did raise it a bit once and it did not require more extra feed to be produced.  Should be okay.  :)

It was a bit tricky updating to the new version on an existing map.  For some reason, demolishing the chicken shed made with v2.1 did not work with v 2.11.  So, I ended up loading an earlier save with v2.1 & demolished all the buildings from this set.  Then, I updated to the newest version & am in the process of rebuilding.  The updated thatch patch works great & the beef production from the cow shed is awesome.  Don't have data on anything else yet.

Thanks for all the work you do, it is appreciated.  I did not mean for you to revisit everything on account of me. 

No worries. I like to fix things so that they work better.

Hey @kid1293


Am home from work and adding this mod to my Excel spreadsheet. Just letting you know your latest version, the Pig Shed for me does NOT make any Leather, just Pork. And if by chance you are going back in to check on that, perhaps you might want to edit the toolbar button name and the building's window for the Pig Shed as well. Currently it reads "Pig Shed root" from your previous version. =)

Hi. I edit the description.

I think I had a discussion with Abandoned about leather from pigs.
We decided to leave it out.

I edit that description too.

Since this is only a menu error, I do not know what to do. There will be several versions out there.
I can do what I do when in doubt. Just update, don't tell... ;D Well, I told you now.

Wait 15 minutes and I have the same version uploaded with the menu fixes.

Hi. A lot of other things too...

The file is uploaded with the same name and version. Just download and replace.
No problems in a saved game.

Thanks for the quick fix, got it.

Oh shucks @kid1293 I am sorry.


I forgot to mention that the Pig Shed still has the Textile Limit attached to it. I am assuming you will just leave it in as is? I think I didn't mention it before because I assumed you were going to add Leather back into the menu.  :P

oh yes, we switched from two pig shed ( pig fed roots, pig potatoes) to only one.  Could only have one input and one output.  No one would raise pigs just for the leather and waste the meat.  Same with cows - output beef or milk, no leather.

sorry I did not catch shed name. 

Thanks @MarkAnthony for catching problems

[keeping a straight face]

I feel a bit frayed... Mark, there is a new download! (same place, same name)

Didn't test it. I just deleted the textile limit. Should work.

Once again, thanks for the quick update. You're awesome my Friend. I assume you will be getting some sleep shortly. Happy dreams!

Well... Happy Banishing, Mark

The chicken shed is much better now, about 600 eggs or chicken per year with 2 workers.  All is well.   :)

 :)  Good to know, thanks @Eagle74