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Title: FIGS, FIGS, I'VE LOST ME FIGS!
Post by: adelegarland on June 07, 2017, 10:49:46 AM
First I lost my mind, now I've lost my Figs!  Check out the pix attached, Figs are not showing up as anything, they are anonymous, hiding, incognito!
I think there are a few fig files out there and I probably have the wrong one...   I know they are in the EB mods, but where else?  Ideas?
Title: Re: FIGS, FIGS, I'VE LOST ME FIGS!
Post by: embx61 on June 07, 2017, 11:26:56 AM
I just checked and I don't see the icon for the fig either in the orchard selection.  :o

I going to look what went wrong. I copied the files from Luke's example but apparently something went wrong.

Title: Re: FIGS, FIGS, I'VE LOST ME FIGS!
Post by: embx61 on June 07, 2017, 11:32:27 AM
Found the error.

I went couple of weeks over all my files to remove the EB in front of all the icons and name linking.
I missed the Fig Natural Resource file. It is fixed now and upload a new version of the Unified Mod in a about 10 minutes.

It should be save compatible.

New version just uploaded!
Title: Re: FIGS, FIGS, I'VE LOST ME FIGS!
Post by: adelegarland on June 07, 2017, 11:47:52 AM
 ;D   Thank you so much!  I miss my figs!
Now, Can you find my mind? :P
Title: Re: FIGS, FIGS, I'VE LOST ME FIGS!
Post by: embx61 on June 07, 2017, 11:50:49 AM
LOL

I lots of times cannot even find my own mind. :)
Title: Re: FIGS, FIGS, I'VE LOST ME FIGS!
Post by: twilightbreeze on June 08, 2017, 02:45:31 AM
I would love to install the figs, but they don't work with the Longer Living Orchard mod, and I don't want to have to mess with them every 5 seasons. Wish they did. I personally love figs.
Title: Re: FIGS, FIGS, I'VE LOST ME FIGS!
Post by: embx61 on June 08, 2017, 05:15:13 AM
O, is that a mod what makes the Orchard ever living?

I never thought about adding that to the Unified Mod. I remember when my wife and I played I changed the orchards to ever living as well as to keep track of the orchards was a pain and I don't consider it really cheating.

I can add ever living orchards to the Unified Mod if players like that.
Title: Re: FIGS, FIGS, I'VE LOST ME FIGS!
Post by: RedKetchup on June 08, 2017, 06:33:47 AM
Quote from: embx61 on June 08, 2017, 05:15:13 AM
O, is that a mod what makes the Orchard ever living?

I never thought about adding that to the Unified Mod. I remember when my wife and I played I changed the orchards to ever living as well as to keep track of the orchards was a pain and I don't consider it really cheating.

I can add ever living orchards to the Unified Mod if players like that.

orchards are a pain, you always have them half producing cause half of the trees are too young... and the other half dying soon :P

eternal is good , or at least , double longer health
Title: Re: FIGS, FIGS, I'VE LOST ME FIGS!
Post by: twilightbreeze on June 08, 2017, 09:30:29 AM
The Longer Living Orchard mod lets them go 15-20 years before starting to die and need replacing. Which is nice because you plant, they tend and harvest every year, and you can get on with other things, not having to constantly keep an eye on the time. But it only works with vanilla game orchard seeds, so mods like figs are not affected.
Title: Re: FIGS, FIGS, I'VE LOST ME FIGS!
Post by: RedKetchup on June 08, 2017, 12:22:52 PM
this is because this is not the orchard  that changed, this is each treee. each tree files has been edited and changed a couple of numbers (about life time)
in order to change the CC ones, we also need all their files.
Title: Re: FIGS, FIGS, I'VE LOST ME FIGS!
Post by: embx61 on June 10, 2017, 01:31:33 AM
I thinking about it to change all the orchards trees to ever living in the Unified Mod.
I personally don't see it really as a cheat as 5 years for a tree to die is just plain wrong.

No clue why Luke came up with that but my guess is that is was just a sort of cheap idea to add some more challenge to the game.

What do you players think? Should I make the orchards trees ever living, or at least 2 or 5 times longer living or just leave the vanilla values?
Title: Re: FIGS, FIGS, I'VE LOST ME FIGS!
Post by: Nilla on June 10, 2017, 01:59:38 AM
5 years for a tree to live is much too short but I don't like immortal trees either. So I would prefere a longer life span. How much longer? In life trees could be very old, but I also think it's very much different, depending on what tree it is. Some orchard trees are renewed after 10-20 years others live and carry fruit 100s of years. But this isn't life, it's a computergame and we seldom play a game "for ever". If we have to replant our orchards after 10-20 years, it's fine with me.
Title: Re: FIGS, FIGS, I'VE LOST ME FIGS!
Post by: Abandoned on June 10, 2017, 07:02:36 AM
There is a Longer Living Orchard mod, 20 years.

edit mod is by Pangaea and can be found on BanishedInfo site
Title: Re: FIGS, FIGS, I'VE LOST ME FIGS!
Post by: Paeng on June 10, 2017, 08:08:15 AM
Quote from: embx61 on June 10, 2017, 01:31:33 AMWhat do you players think?

Well, I hate those frazzled orchards... and it's not really much of a challenge to sit around waiting for them to regrow  ???
So I use "Immortal Orchards" without any guilt...  :P

To satisfy everyone - I would not add it as a universal feature in a mod... keep it standalone, maybe in 2 or 3 flavors - one with dead trees after 20 years, one after 100 years, one immortal... or so   :D

* That way it's also easier to update, which I think need to be done whenever someone brings in new trees...

Title: Re: FIGS, FIGS, I'VE LOST ME FIGS!
Post by: embx61 on June 10, 2017, 09:02:57 AM
yeah, good idea @Paeng. I can make a couple of overrides what the players can put above the Unified Mod and then in three flavors
Title: Re: FIGS, FIGS, I'VE LOST ME FIGS!
Post by: RedKetchup on June 10, 2017, 10:19:36 AM
do you guys have the new textures for the crop and orchard that has been implemented at some point... i think was in CC ...
the crop is kinda brown...

i would like to get those
Title: Re: FIGS, FIGS, I'VE LOST ME FIGS!
Post by: brads3 on June 10, 2017, 11:30:02 AM
do you mean like this? its the seasonFX mod that gives me the field textures.
Title: Re: FIGS, FIGS, I'VE LOST ME FIGS!
Post by: embx61 on June 10, 2017, 12:39:29 PM
I just made quick a little Fruit trees override mod.

It is in the download section.

3 different pkm's  1 for 20 years, 1 for 100 years and 1 for ever living.
Title: Re: FIGS, FIGS, I'VE LOST ME FIGS!
Post by: Paeng on June 10, 2017, 01:09:58 PM
Quote from: embx61 on June 10, 2017, 12:39:29 PMa little Fruit trees override mod

Very good, thank you  :)

Generally speaking, I feel that such overrides are a really good thing for small or very specific changes...

Kralyerg made good use of them, too - don't want Ducks? have an override... prefer the old market texture? here... original music? okay... don't want dirty meat? no sweat... and so on.

Usually just tiny files, easily installed (or ignored, without consequences) - got plenty of those, and love them...   ;)
Title: Re: FIGS, FIGS, I'VE LOST ME FIGS!
Post by: embx61 on June 10, 2017, 01:16:09 PM
Your welcome @Paeng :)

I always played with the fruit trees ever living in my personalized mods but never thought about it to make a little override mod for it to share.

Title: Re: FIGS, FIGS, I'VE LOST ME FIGS!
Post by: twilightbreeze on June 10, 2017, 05:21:26 PM
But will it affect non-vanilla orchards, such as figs? Cause I already have Longer Living Orchards, goes about 20yrs, and it only affects vanilla orchards.
Title: Re: FIGS, FIGS, I'VE LOST ME FIGS!
Post by: embx61 on June 10, 2017, 07:03:48 PM
I only affect the fig example from Luke besides the Vanilla ones as I have the files for all those trees.

If other mods have fruit trees they will not be affected because I don't have their files to change.
Title: Re: FIGS, FIGS, I'VE LOST ME FIGS!
Post by: taniu on June 12, 2017, 03:38:09 AM
 @ embx61. Very good, thank you the Figs :).I have a request to either "Unified Mod" and "Oil Press" mod can be added - Vegetable oil very please need it to a small bakery. I added the "Bakery Plus" mod and works great without CC. I can not take Donut's position - [Flour + Vegatable oil] because there is no such oil in other mods.
Vegetable oil is very useful for the future. Apricot is not available, but I do not know if you can help me? I do not know who has the code of fruit trees
Please ! :)
Title: Re: FIGS, FIGS, I'VE LOST ME FIGS!
Post by: embx61 on June 12, 2017, 04:06:22 AM
I can do add vegetable oil. Give me a couple of days.

Apricot I don't know of, I think it is a CC crop or maybe grows in a greenhouse?

The code of the other fruit trees are in the hands of those who created the mods. You can try to ask kralyerg to make the CC fruit trees ever lasting, or 20 years or whatever you want.

It is not hard work but a bit tedious if you have to do a whole bunch of them.
Title: Re: FIGS, FIGS, I'VE LOST ME FIGS!
Post by: taniu on June 12, 2017, 05:18:12 AM
@ embx61 :)You are a great guy. I am very happy - I will wait patiently. I did not know you had the talent for modeling fruit trees or vegetable - plants. I second I'm a regular gamer and I do not have the courage to ask @ Kralyerg about these apricots because I can think that I play with other mods and not CC but that's not true I love all mods with CC and MegaMod. I know that creating a plants is very boring but I like when the plants grow in the field because in the greenhouse they do not see them but you decide.
I like experimenting with different mods, I even have "Llama" without CC :)
Title: Re: FIGS, FIGS, I'VE LOST ME FIGS!
Post by: embx61 on June 12, 2017, 05:54:44 AM
Sorry, I am not so good with trees and crops. I made only 1 so far and that was a cheap paid for mesh. (Sunflower)

kralyerg don't mind that you play with other mods besides CC.

It is no secret and I mentioned it quite a few times that while I like the effort and awesome work BL did with CC it is just too big for me personally.
The BL crew don't mind and understand it is not for everyone. Some cannot even play CC because of the work load on their older PC.

We are all in the same boat modding wise and every mod, big or small, adds something to Banished. Some prefer huge one PKM mods and others rather mix and max by adding several smaller mods to their liking. There is no right or wrong.
It all comes down what the creators have in mind when making mods.

Even when it takes a bit more work I decided to make smaller sets and besides that 1 big Unified mod and so I can cover more players likings.

It all comes down if kralyerg want to take the time to lift it out of CC and recompile it as a little standalone mod.
He has done so with quite a few CC items so no harm in just asking him. It can maybe take a bit depending on how busy he is but he is a very nice guy.

By not asking you have a No for sure, but by asking him through a PM the No can become a Yes :)
Title: Re: FIGS, FIGS, I'VE LOST ME FIGS!
Post by: taniu on June 12, 2017, 12:13:18 PM
@embx61Thank you for your answer . Quote  @ Ketchup "for the apricot, just copy the peach tree and call it apricot
for kralyerg, nobody saw him since april" You are right. They are so fantastic mods that it's hard to give up.
Can you just change the name from peach to apricot? Will they grow Apricot? You will help me, because I'm an older person and I can not change the simplest commands in the game, but I can count on you. Please . There is a smallBakery - Fruit Cake [Flour + Apricot]
Or maybe there is a person in this forum who knows about different plant models and can type commands into the game. I'd be happy. @ EmbX61 you are a very wise person, as he does not come out, will also be Ok :) Cheers
Title: Re: FIGS, FIGS, I'VE LOST ME FIGS!
Post by: RedKetchup on June 12, 2017, 12:19:30 PM
gimme some hours.... working on something presently :)
i ll do an Apricot mod for you. but i cannot go change the small bakery though