My ale production last year was 11,630, which would have used 34,890 fruit.
My total food used was 147,273. Less fruit used to make ale leaves 112,383 food eaten by 1600 bannies.
Something's not right. (Also, I'm suspicious of the ale production figure, it seems low for 36 taverns, ten year average is 16,886/year).
Ten year numbers:
Ale production 168,860 requiring 506,580 fruit.
Total food used 2,122,603. Less ale leaves 1,616,023 food eaten. Seems closer, although my pop has been falling; ten years ago it was ~1800
What the heck?
We know that Bannies eat ~100 units of food per year. But do they eat just once a year (100 units) or once per season (25 units)? If they eat once per season and a Bannie is born in winter he/she will then only have eaten 25 units that year.
Quote from: Gatherer on October 17, 2017, 02:37:02 PM
We know that Bannies eat ~100 units of food per year. But do they eat just once a year (100 units) or once per season (25 units)? If they eat once per season and a Bannie is born in winter he/she will then only have eaten 25 units that year.
Actually I have studied this out, they return home to eat every other month, 6x/year, ~15-17 units each time. They will consume a random amount of each single food item present in their home when they get there.
Also, I went through my taverns, actual ale production last year was 17,750 and not 11,630 as shown on the production tab. So the numbers shown are not reliable, at least not for this town, at least not for food consumption and ale production, at least not for this past year. I'll look at this coming year as well.
I forgot, the other reason I think there actually is something weird going on with my food consumption is that my food graph has changed.
For many years it has bounced up and down reciprocal with the pop curve; now the pop curve is still doing its thing, but the food graph has changed to scraping along just beneath the food limit.
looks like the bannies got educated and organized wit6h their houses so are producing better.i take it they are right at the max food limit?whwre is the problem? i must be missing something.
Do children consume the same amount of food as adults?
Do idling laborer eat less than constantly working craftsman?
Quote from: brads3 on October 17, 2017, 09:23:24 PM
looks like the bannies got educated and organized wit6h their houses so are producing better.i take it they are right at the max food limit?whwre is the problem? i must be missing something.
First post. Pop 1600. Food consumed 112,383. That's 70/person
Quote from: JM on October 18, 2017, 01:46:26 AM
Do children consume the same amount of food as adults?
Yes
Quote from: JM on October 18, 2017, 01:46:26 AMDo idling laborer eat less than constantly working craftsman?
No
Most recent year:
Pop 1877
Food consumed = 162,359
Ale production = 18,570 using 55,710 fruit -- 516 ale/tavern!
Food eaten = 106,649 (162,359-55710) or ~57/person
Okay, this might be it. I don't believe that my food consumption actually is suddenly and magically less than 100/person/year.
It is possible that when you are at the food limit, consumption no longer is calculated accurately.
Quote from: irrelevant on October 18, 2017, 05:19:34 AM
Okay, this might be it. I don't believe that my food consumption actually is suddenly and magically less than 100/person/year.
It is possible that when you are at the food limit, consumption no longer is calculated accurately.
thats totally possible
i wonder if the food that gets left by the field that is not counted is being taken to houses and ate. so the 100 eaten by the bannies is the same but since they collect it from non-counted food it throws the numbers off.hypothetical but say a gatherer or hunter harvests at the same time a farmer clears a field.the game can't total both since it hits the limit. the food gets set down by the field not counted.
Quote from: brads3 on October 18, 2017, 08:19:54 AM
i wonder if the food that gets left by the field that is not counted is being taken to houses and ate. so the 100 eaten by the bannies is the same but since they collect it from non-counted food it throws the numbers off.hypothetical but say a gatherer or hunter harvests at the same time a farmer clears a field.the game can't total both since it hits the limit. the food gets set down by the field not counted.
Food that gets left in the field gets frosted and dies. Food can go to houses only from storage, never directly from fields or baskets. If it doesn't get stored in a barn or a market, it never is used.
Also don't forget that when Bannies die any items they were carrying get destroyed. If a vendor dies when carrying 500 units of food...
Now that food inventory has dropped from the ceiling down into the 500ks, consumption (or reporting) is still whacked.
Pop 1957
Food consumption 207,243
Ale production 14,860 = 44,580 fruit used.
Food eaten = 207,240 - 44,580 = 162,660
Ah, but wait! I'm an idiot; I'm also trading food away (mushrooms, venison, mutton).
But that only would make the discrepancy worse.
I've spent the last hour watching people eat.
My guys are eating right at 75 food/year. No doubt about it.
They stop by home every other month, eat 11, 12, or 13 food each time.
This is in contradiction with observations I've made previously. My guys would return home every other month and eat 15-17 food each time. I studied this extensively a year or two ago.
Have I found an Easter egg? My food consumption pattern changed right around the time GP passed the current date. See the image from an old save.
i wonder that but it seems to happen when you hit the food limit. thing is to keep the limit down so the bannies use less food doesn't give you a reserve to grow or take nomads.plus different mods might offset this.it also could be argued that you have ran the game a lot of years.it is interesting but is it practicle and helpful?
I don't think it has anything to do with the food limit, my current inventory is nowhere near the limit.
Practical and helpful? No. But I'd say it is interesting.
since it is hard to keep track with children being born i do wonder if we have been told it is 100 but maybe it depends on more factors such as climate or if it has a random range. even then it would be different depdning on the mods used.
wonder if it has been changed with the many updates along the way.
I'm using hardly any mods, and I've been tracking children as young as 0 this evening as well as adults.
Just looked at another town, in year 4. At first glance it seems that they are eating ~75/year as well.
Well, here's another wrinkle in this. In my town, the figures on the production tab for last year's consumption will keep increasing, three or four times per month, for six months after the end of the year. For example, in a recent year, the previous year's food consumption changed like this.
Early Spring - 175,940
Spring - 198,170
Late Spring - 221,117
Early Summer - 244,256
Summer - 266,256
Late Summer - 284,301
Food production and Ale production had similar patterns.
Also, each time that last year's numbers increased, the current years numbers zeroed out. So when you looked at the production panel in Late Summer, the numbers in the Used and Produced columns (between the Current column and the Used (1 yrs) column), all were zero.
Still does not account for the observed behavior of guys going home 6x/year and eating 11, 12, or 13 food for a total of 75.
eta: just confirmed that this does not happen in all of my towns, just in Gopher Prairie.
Running 1.07 Beta build 170608. If there is a more current version, someone please point me in the right direction!
170910 i think
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Quote from: irrelevant on October 19, 2017, 07:36:47 PM
Just looked at another town, in year 4. At first glance it seems that they are eating ~75/year as well.
I know this is an ancient thread, but I feel I must drop in here and set the record straight.
My guys were eating 100 food/year the entire time. I had lost track of the fact that bannies go home to eat 6 times/year. I was thinking that it was only 4 times/year :-[
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