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Title: Hide items
Post by: assobanana76 on March 09, 2015, 06:26:37 AM
how I can hide items to my vegans citizens?
I would buy by merchant hide coats to make the scarecrows .. but just for that!
I would not want that people then begin to wear them!  >:(
how can I do?
Title: Re: Hide items
Post by: salamander on March 09, 2015, 06:44:41 AM
If you trade for them, the trader at the trading post will move them out to a barn or market.  Once there, I don't think you can keep your bannies from getting them.

Some of the storage mods might let you restrict items, but I've never used them so I can't say for sure.
Title: Re: Hide items
Post by: kee on March 09, 2015, 07:16:20 AM
You can try to up the demand at the trading port- set inventory to xxx leather coats, even if you have none in your barns. When you buy from that boatman, chances are none of your bannies will get hold of them before the trader. How to get the coats then over to the scarecrows I leave for you to figure out since that's got me stumped.
Title: Re: Hide items
Post by: irrelevant on March 09, 2015, 07:27:03 AM
Quote from: kee on March 09, 2015, 07:16:20 AM
How to get the coats then over to the scarecrows I leave for you to figure out since that's got me stumped.

Yeah, I can't figure that one out either
Title: Re: Hide items
Post by: rkelly17 on March 09, 2015, 07:45:38 AM
You could always very politely ask @RedKetchup to do a vegan version of the scarecrow. He has been known to do special request mods in the past.
Title: Re: Hide items
Post by: salamander on March 09, 2015, 07:47:44 AM
Quote from: rkelly17 on March 09, 2015, 07:45:38 AM
You could always very politely ask @RedKetchup to do a vegan version of the scarecrow.
Maybe in conjunction with @slink's cotton mod for making the coats.
Title: Re: Hide items
Post by: Gatherer on March 09, 2015, 03:26:56 PM
Hijacking this thread for a quick question since we're talking about hiding items.

Why are item names still listed in town hall inventory even if you have none of those items?
Title: Re: Hide items
Post by: Bobbi on March 09, 2015, 04:24:14 PM
I know if you have EVER had something it will show up on the list, and will not go away just because you have none of something now.
Title: Re: Hide items
Post by: RedKetchup on March 09, 2015, 04:30:09 PM
hiding items and deleting 0 ressources are out of the toolkit ability. it is inside the game code itself. nothing can be done for that, unfortunatly.
Title: Re: Hide items
Post by: Ross Rossford on March 09, 2015, 05:25:35 PM
You could try getting the Scarecrow's construction progress as far as possible, making a save and releasing a single hide coat from your TP's inventory. Then you just have to hope your builder snags it before anybody else does, and reload if not. Could get tedious if it doesn't work out but I'm not sure what other options there are aside from a mod of the scarecrow as others have suggested. :(
Title: Re: Hide items
Post by: irrelevant on March 09, 2015, 07:33:51 PM
This is about as good as it's going to get, I think. The only other thing I can suggest is to hit the scarecrow under construction with the priority tool right before you unpause, and perhaps a few times after.

What does a vegan town do for coats, anyway?
Title: Re: Hide items
Post by: RedKetchup on March 09, 2015, 09:19:27 PM
they are nudist ? vegan and nudist goes in pair ? :P
Title: Re: Hide items
Post by: Chon Waen on March 09, 2015, 10:39:18 PM
I would think that importing wool would be ok. Its not like the sheep mind. Overall, I do believe they tend to be quite happy to have all that hot hair off. Much like I'm happier after my June haircut!
Title: Re: Hide items
Post by: assobanana76 on March 10, 2015, 01:27:53 AM
ok! last night I had the light that I have just discovered also Rossford had.
I can buy a limited number of hide coat (eg 20) put the game on pause, order the trader to keep in the inventory the exact number of hide coat bought and put in "no work".
when the builder has reached the point of putting the coat @ the scarecrow I select a number in less than coats (eg 19)
Then I just have to hope that the builder is the fastest of the village !!!  ;D ;D
as saying irrelevant, perhaps, the priority can help!  ::)

to respond to other, the vegans citizens dress cotton and linen produced by the related cultures created by the mod CC: EA.

and I dare not ask a scarecrow vegan Red because already has done so much for me, leaving me to fly in the air a 3rd floor without that no child falls down the stairs!  ;D ;D
Title: Re: Hide items
Post by: Nilla on March 10, 2015, 03:28:02 AM
It might also help to reserve the leather clothes for the scare crows, if you have a lot of vegan clothes for the population on every market, before you let the coats leave the TP. Otherwise I am afraid that the vendors might be quicker, than the builders/workers of the scare crow.
Title: Re: Hide items
Post by: assobanana76 on March 10, 2015, 03:44:09 AM
ok!
then, I have to hyper-produce clothes of linen and cotton
hold, in the inventory of the trading post, the exact number of coats bought
give priority to the scarecrow
to leave a coat at a time when the construction requires it
hope in the speed of the builder!  ;D
I forget something?
Title: Re: Hide items
Post by: RedKetchup on March 10, 2015, 10:33:52 AM
Poor @assobanana76  ROFL ;D




but with this you can maybe get some... red conflict warning.... put it first on the list ^^
should be good. let me know if any crash (save your cities first !!!!!)
Title: Re: Hide items
Post by: assobanana76 on March 10, 2015, 11:07:25 AM
Quote from: RedKetchup on March 10, 2015, 10:33:52 AM
Poor @assobanana76  ROFL ;D




but with this you can maybe get some... red conflict warning.... put it first on the list ^^
should be good. let me know if any crash (save your cities first !!!!!)
oh #%@#!!!
no words..................
THANKS!!!!
Title: Re: Hide items
Post by: rkelly17 on March 10, 2015, 11:08:10 AM
See, I knew He would come though!
Title: Re: Hide items
Post by: RedKetchup on March 10, 2015, 11:09:43 AM
Quote from: assobanana76 on March 10, 2015, 11:07:25 AM
Quote from: RedKetchup on March 10, 2015, 10:33:52 AM
Poor @assobanana76  ROFL ;D




but with this you can maybe get some... red conflict warning.... put it first on the list ^^
should be good. let me know if any crash (save your cities first !!!!!)
oh #%@#!!!
no words..................
THANKS!!!!

i hope you found it, it is hiding in the service bar lol
(didnt want to search more than that ^^ thats the first line of toolbar code i found hehe)
Title: Re: Hide items
Post by: assobanana76 on March 10, 2015, 11:39:53 AM
perfect! perfect!
I will found it!!
Title: Re: Hide items
Post by: assobanana76 on March 13, 2015, 05:27:09 AM
@RedKetchup
Reeeeeeeeeeedddd!!!
the wool is not vegan!!!
Title: Re: Hide items
Post by: RedKetchup on March 13, 2015, 06:09:05 AM
thats the 2 only that exist ! , bah the 3rd is + leather and + wool !

sorry >< i thought wool was vegan cause we dont need to kill a sheep to make it go to an appointment with the barber shop !!


      {
         ComponentDescription _rawMaterial = "Template/RawMaterialWood.rsc";
         int _count = 1;
      }

      {
         ComponentDescription _rawMaterial = "Template/RawMaterialwheat.rsc";
         int _count = 10;
      }


is it ok now ??  ?? 10 wheat instead ?? there is no other coat that exist in the game !!


Title: Re: Hide items
Post by: assobanana76 on March 13, 2015, 09:42:36 AM
wheat?? lol
you are a genius!!
after all is precisely with the straw that fills up!
my vegan citizens wear cotton and linen from CC:EA's crops.
thank you Red!!
Title: Re: Hide items
Post by: RedKetchup on March 13, 2015, 10:35:41 AM
Quote from: assobanana76 on March 13, 2015, 09:42:36 AM
my vegan citizens wear cotton and linen from CC:EA's crops.

i dont have the raw material coton files, neither the raw material linen files !!!
of course you can ask them to release one for you :) but.... WHO DID IT just for you ?

ME ! :)

/joking
Title: Re: Hide items
Post by: Chon Waen on March 13, 2015, 10:45:12 AM
Ahh, decided to investigate why @assobanana76 doesn't use wool for his vegans.  This is what I found:
http://animalrights.about.com/od/animalsusedinclothing/ss/What-S-Wrong-With-Wool-Why-Don-T-Vegans-Wear-Wool.htm

Its not enough for vegans to not eat meat or meat products, they don't want to exploit animals either.
Title: Re: Hide items
Post by: assobanana76 on March 13, 2015, 11:32:40 AM
Mowing is not painless for the sheep. causing cuts and bruises that are infected because it costs too much to cure them. if they have evolved with the wool on him all year there must be a reason.
Title: Re: Hide items
Post by: assobanana76 on March 13, 2015, 11:34:16 AM
Quote from: RedKetchup on March 13, 2015, 10:35:41 AM
Quote from: assobanana76 on March 13, 2015, 09:42:36 AM
my vegan citizens wear cotton and linen from CC:EA's crops.

i dont have the raw material coton files, neither the raw material linen files !!!
of course you can ask them to release one for you :) but.... WHO DID IT just for you ?

ME ! :)

/joking
absolutly  true!!
Title: Re: Hide items
Post by: A Nonny Moose on March 13, 2015, 01:04:50 PM
I don't suppose anyone has thought that if you don't shear sheep the coats strip and often painfully.  Take a look at some late spring mountain goats who are ejecting their coats.  They look ratty and very uncomfortable.

Sorry vegans, but I adhere to People Eating Tasty Animals.
Title: Re: Hide items
Post by: assobanana76 on March 13, 2015, 01:32:59 PM
I do not expect to change the world .. I do what I can in my small yard.. to each his own thought.  ;)
Title: Re: Hide items
Post by: Chon Waen on March 13, 2015, 01:39:12 PM
Though I don't agree with vegans' philosophy regarding animals personally, at least they are consistent with it.  Individual vegans vary, and as long as they don't try to make their housecat vegan, I'm like "whatever floats yer boat".

And yes, I have heard about an extreme vegan trying to make her cat a vegan as well.  I think the technical term for it was "Starving the Poor Thing"!
Title: Re: Hide items
Post by: assobanana76 on March 13, 2015, 01:54:28 PM
Quote from: Chon Waen on March 13, 2015, 01:39:12 PM
Though I don't agree with vegans' philosophy regarding animals personally, at least they are consistent with it.  Individual vegans vary, and as long as they don't try to make their housecat vegan, I'm like "whatever floats yer boat".

And yes, I have heard about an extreme vegan trying to make her cat a vegan as well.  I think the technical term for it was "Starving the Poor Thing"!
I don't have cats!  ;D
and in any case I would not dream of turning carnivorous animals in vegans!!  :-\
Title: Re: Hide items
Post by: RedKetchup on March 13, 2015, 01:56:50 PM
i am sorry but....

i am a carnivorous human, and proud to be ^^

the 2 most beautiful scent in this universe is the smell of coffee and the smell of bacon :)
Title: Re: Hide items
Post by: A Nonny Moose on March 14, 2015, 09:17:35 PM
Homo sapiens is an omnivorous creature.  How long one can survive on a vegan diet is a matter of unproven speculation and the parameters of the diet.  Are there any animal products in use?  If not, what is your source of protein (tofu? Quinoa?) and is it complete?  Fats?  Carbs in general?  Are you sure you are getting enough trace elements?  One believes that ocean animals are also excluded.

I hope you are aware that five pounds of uncooked spinach (salad) is a lethal dose of oxalic acid.
Title: Re: Hide items
Post by: assobanana76 on March 16, 2015, 01:39:58 AM
we could discuss hours nutrition homo sapiens but do not think is the right place ..
regarding my diet is balanced by a vegan diet prescribed by a doctor where I went at the beginning of my choice.
without wishing to be controversial, I think the damn of an omnivorous diet are under everyone's eyes, thinking of the diseases caused by the excessive consumption of meat, fat, etc ..

(not sure of the translation of my words)
Title: Re: Hide items
Post by: A Nonny Moose on March 16, 2015, 08:58:41 AM
As a sort of envoi from us omnivores, the whole point of a good diet is the Greek motto "Nothing in excess".  Balance is everything, and it is important to avoid overdoing any dietary item while making sure you are balanced.  As a diabetic, I assure you this is a very delicate balancing act.
Title: Re: Hide items
Post by: assobanana76 on March 16, 2015, 03:55:46 PM
I agree with that saying but I choose to believe that certain foods should be avoided because it is not suited to our body.
and who writes to you has spent 34 years on 38 to eat meat and fish having 90% of the values ​​of the blood out of the media.
in the last four years I no longer had a value that was not perfect.
maybe it's just an illusion that will last a few more years, but why should I make a U-turn back now?
I also passed the initial period in which every vegan tries to change his whole world of knowledge by converting many people as possible.
Now I am at peace with myself and my choice.
Title: Re: Hide items
Post by: A Nonny Moose on March 16, 2015, 04:04:25 PM
Well, as my French friends say:- chacun a son goût.

I've been an omnivore for some months past 77 years, and I think I am too old to change ways now.
Title: Re: Hide items
Post by: Brathaehnchen on March 16, 2015, 04:05:40 PM
[offtopic]

Vegans are strange people  ;D ~ lol ~
As RedKetchup has already written: The smell of fried bacon is one of the most beautiful things that exist on this planet.  8)
But everyone should live as he sees fit.
Title: Re: Hide items
Post by: assobanana76 on March 17, 2015, 02:49:32 AM
Quote from: A Nonny Moose on March 16, 2015, 04:04:25 PM
Well, as my French friends say:- chacun a son goût.

I've been an omnivore for some months past 77 years, and I think I am too old to change ways now.
for this reason I said that is no longer my battle to make change idea to people.  ;D
Title: Re: Hide items
Post by: Rayden on March 17, 2015, 05:15:23 AM
I prefer my own way, the body asks for what it needs. I can have one day where I feel like not having carbo or fat and eat just salads and fruits, but the next day my body asks for something more caloric or protein and I have a proper meal with meat. Like in winter or summer, the body asks for more or less sugar. I rarely eat a cake or something sweet during Summer but in Winter looks like my body cries for that extra sugar. And I hate excesses :)
Title: Re: Hide items
Post by: Nilla on March 17, 2015, 05:29:15 AM
Everyone should eat what's right for him or her. It's alright to eat meat! It's alright to be a vegan!

Personally I don't like industrial food. I try to avoid it, if I can and I am lucky to live at the country with neighbours who have small family farms, where we can buy meat and potatoes. Other neighbors have hens and bees as hobby at their backyard and we buy eggs and honey from them. I have a big garden, where i grow some vegetables (not so much as I used to, because I am quite sick and cannot do much work any more). Familymembers hunt and go fishing. I love to go to the forest to pick berries and mushrooms. So we try to eat like the Bannies ;)
Title: Re: Hide items
Post by: assobanana76 on March 17, 2015, 05:37:24 AM
Quote from: Nilla on March 17, 2015, 05:29:15 AM
Everyone should eat what's right for him or her. It's alright to eat meat! It's alright to be a vegan!

Personally I don't like industrial food. I try to avoid it, if I can and I am lucky to live at the country with neighbours who have small family farms, where we can buy meat and potatoes. Other neighbors have hens and bees as hobby at their backyard and we buy eggs and honey from them. I have a big garden, where i grow some vegetables (not so much as I used to, because I am quite sick and cannot do much work any more). Familymembers hunt and go fishing. I love to go to the forest to pick berries and mushrooms. So we try to eat like the Bannies ;)
it seems that you live in a real beautiful place !!!
trust me .. you are really lucky!
I live in a big city just a few miles from an incinerator!
I tried to cultivate a "garden in the balcony" (cucumbers, carrots, potatoes, peas ..) but then we have not even found the courage to taste the vegetables that I have produced.
Title: Re: Hide items
Post by: A Nonny Moose on March 17, 2015, 08:32:06 AM
Trust your balcony grown stuff.  Plants are good at filtering out toxins.
Title: Re: Hide items
Post by: assobanana76 on March 17, 2015, 08:37:42 AM
Quote from: A Nonny Moose on March 17, 2015, 08:32:06 AM
Trust your balcony grown stuff.  Plants are good at filtering out toxins.
also that of an incinerator??
they burn all and all go in air!
Title: Re: Hide items
Post by: paralias on March 17, 2015, 09:16:43 AM
@assobanana76 you are absolutely right.... i live in Athens and the taste of almost everything we eat here havent 1/1000 the taste of the ones my father grows in my village...
Title: Re: Hide items
Post by: RedKetchup on March 17, 2015, 12:13:26 PM
made from dust you will return to dust ! evrything is recycled, nothing is lost :)
thats the way of the nature :)
Title: Re: Hide items
Post by: A Nonny Moose on March 17, 2015, 01:54:06 PM
Quote from: assobanana76 on March 17, 2015, 08:37:42 AM
Quote from: A Nonny Moose on March 17, 2015, 08:32:06 AM
Trust your balcony grown stuff.  Plants are good at filtering out toxins.
also that of an incinerator??
they burn all and all go in air!
Here in Ontario, the City of Mississauga has a downtown incinerator for recycling, and the waste water fountains outside the building are potable.  I suppose it depends on how good the scrubbers are at that plant.

For Europeans, I think I saw that the city of Vienna also has a similar plant in the city downtown area.

Why not do a little check on the technology?  Have you ever visited that plant?
Title: Re: Hide items
Post by: assobanana76 on March 19, 2015, 01:24:49 AM
I live in Italy. and I think I said everything.
the incinerator is out of all the limitations imposed by law but no politician does anything.
even the various committees of citizens have never taken effect.
and people (mostly elderly) continues to vote for the same politicians who live thanks to the (proven) substantial bribes.
however, the current mayor has promised that it will be turned off ..... in 2018!
so no, I think I made the right choice, not eating those vegetables.
Title: Re: Hide items
Post by: Nilla on March 19, 2015, 02:08:59 AM
I am sure you made the right choice, @assobanana76. I have worked with waste disposal and other environmental technical matters for 40 years. I didn't want to say anything at first to hurt your Italian pride, but  incinerators are very difficult to run proper and if they are not, they do "spit out" real evil stuff. And i wouldn't trust the Italian authorities, even if you don't live in the south.
Title: Re: Hide items
Post by: assobanana76 on March 19, 2015, 03:02:41 AM
@Nilla
that is south or north in Italy changes little.
the ill-policy is common to the whole nation.
in any other serious country, health authorities would close the incinerator on the same day the limits were exceeded.
in my town hiding data and refer the closure of election in election for the past 10 years.
I try in vain to sell my house to move to another city but, thanks to the incinerator, selling it worth so little that I could not buy anything else that is not a ruin!
Title: Re: Hide items
Post by: A Nonny Moose on March 19, 2015, 05:26:02 AM
Povera Italia.  The Patron-Client system seems to be still in force even after the fall of the Roman Republic.
Title: Re: Hide items
Post by: assobanana76 on March 19, 2015, 05:43:38 AM
Quote from: A Nonny Moose on March 19, 2015, 05:26:02 AM
Povera Italia.  The Patron-Client system seems to be still in force even after the fall of the Roman Republic.
and it will be a long time, unfortunately!