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Title: Forest Village
Post by: Gordon Dry on September 09, 2015, 09:03:35 AM
I'm curious.

This site http://forest-village-game.com/ (http://forest-village-game.com/) makes me wonder if this is really a WIP game waiting for Steam Green Light as they say.

There are many (moderated) comments in the sections of that website saying "shame", "rip-off", "clone" etc.

I posted a comment in the screenshots section that was not accepted by moderators, it just didn't appear, no trace of it.
But my comment was appeasing, telling that saying "shame," "rip-off" and "clone" as offense is not needful.
I wanted to say that it is okay to create a "clone" after Luke decided that Banished is done, especially if Forest Village becomes better - not only better graphics, but better AI, better modding API (the site claims the modding API will come after the initial release), better logistics etc.

So why are comments still there which are kind of offending but a comment that is "on their edge" is deleted?
This seems suspicious to me.
Is this site a social experiment?
Does Luke have his fingers on this?

Questions upon questions.
Title: Re: Forest Village
Post by: RedKetchup on September 09, 2015, 02:59:41 PM
i ve seens many comments about clones and rip offs...

but also some are right, i think clones can be made till they are building it and make all the code themselves. (not simply uncompile programs, copy and alterate)

i saw they put alot more attention to 'details' and looking better overall. it seems all the same features look similar and will comeback in their game.
but ...
if those guys can make a copy without the stupid big limitations we have in Banished ?? it would be WOW!

i ve put a comment :
http://forest-village-game.com/articles/introduction-forest-village-game/#comment-54 (http://forest-village-game.com/articles/introduction-forest-village-game/#comment-54)

Ketchup says:   
Your comment is awaiting moderation.

 September 9, 2015 at 9:50 pm   

Hi there !

quote:
 But we know about community interest to the modding, and modkit will be available in 2-3 months after game release.

i am someone who modded and still moding alot Banished. Yes your game seems to be a clone of this great game but yours seems to have alot more time spent to take care of all the details.
 Looking GREAT !

my question is : Will you take care of your modding community when they have requests ?
 because thats a big problem we have with Banished developper.
 At begining we was glady answered some technical questions sent in private but he totally ignores us since many months and also when we asked and requested some ‘changes’ and ‘fixes’ he totally ignored us and refused to put the time to fix the strong limitations that highly bridle his game and the moddling community.

I will keep following your developpement and see how it goes :)
 if your game be as great as the other one and really push alot further than the other one…. that would be awesome.

-RedKetchup
Title: Re: Forest Village
Post by: Glenn on September 09, 2015, 04:52:56 PM
Yes, I agree,

The lack of mod animation in Banished is holding the game back.

If this new game is a better version of the theme then well on the developers behalf.

What they need to do is have the modding capacity ready when the game launches, not 2-3 months after it is released.

They should also make it possible so existing banished mods are easily transposed into the new game and allow these mods the capacity to be enhanced with animation.

Windmills and water wheels that move, horse drawn carts, doors and windows that open and close, rowing boats that move, smoke and fire from the blacksmith's forge, people who can sit down on benches and at an inn etc. would be a wonderful addition to thoses of us who like this type of game.

If this was the case, then I for one would happily make the swap to the new more interesting game.

Title: Re: Forest Village
Post by: RedKetchup on September 09, 2015, 05:10:39 PM
you can add 'ground merchants' creation
unlimitted material flag creation
unlimitted 'limit' flag production
more caracter-citizens animations (more than just hoe and hammer)
ability to make rivers and lake and mountain.
allow 3D path (left right back foward , and up down)
real terrain 3d ground level (not always a 0'-level relativity) so you can build on mountains
Title: Re: Forest Village
Post by: Glenn on September 09, 2015, 09:42:42 PM
Your right, there are so many things missing from Banished.

Imagine boats that sail, waterfalls with flowing water, paths that go up hills and mountains to a hunters cabin or hermit hut.

I love the Banished concept, even when I played Simcity4 I spent most of my time creating farming and remote village areas.

I don't care who is behind the new game -- if it enhances the concept of the game and allows all the good modding work done todate for Banished to be adapted into the new game, then great -- we will all be better of and enjoy the game that much more.

If the new game is a simple knock off of Banished without the added features that we all want then I for one will be dissapointed and more than likely will not buy it.

One can only hope -- we will see what transpires
Title: Re: Forest Village
Post by: Gordon Dry on September 10, 2015, 03:44:09 AM
So actually my comment went online.

First, after submitting my comment, it said "Your comment is awaiting moderation."

Next day it was gone.
That was the reason I posted here initially.

But now it's online.

But what ever, the stone began to roll...  :P
Title: Re: Forest Village
Post by: RedKetchup on September 10, 2015, 08:00:10 AM
But what ever, the stone began to roll...  :P

^_^

we need to take them asap and educate them very young ^^
in hope to get the good things from the start ^^
Title: Re: Forest Village
Post by: assobanana76 on September 10, 2015, 08:09:15 AM
really it seems to be "Banished" .. improved (at least graphically).
if the guys of that team take a look at all the mods created, taking cues, really we could see born a fake "Banished 2"!  ;D
Title: Re: Forest Village
Post by: DesoPL on September 11, 2015, 01:08:33 AM
If this going to happend on steam. INSTA BUY.
Title: Re: Forest Village
Post by: RedKetchup on September 11, 2015, 02:13:21 AM
it should, thats what they told
Title: Re: Forest Village
Post by: DesoPL on September 11, 2015, 04:01:53 AM
Game is still on GL? Can't find it.
Title: Re: Forest Village
Post by: RedKetchup on September 11, 2015, 05:20:49 AM
Game is still on GL? Can't find it.

on GL ?
it is still on WiP ^^ wont be release before next year.
Title: Re: Forest Village
Post by: Fellow Villager on September 11, 2015, 07:15:01 AM
whoa i totally missed this section

however, this game seems promising. but we don't know how much

Title: Re: Forest Village
Post by: RedKetchup on September 11, 2015, 07:59:59 AM
they said less than 15,00$

http://forest-village-game.com/faq/ (http://forest-village-game.com/faq/)

they also says Fall 2015 .... but i am sceptik
Title: Re: Forest Village
Post by: Gordon Dry on September 11, 2015, 08:47:24 AM
Perhaps they release it as early access alpha?
Title: Re: Forest Village
Post by: Paeng on September 12, 2015, 02:35:05 PM
Well, I followed this for a while when it boiled up on reddit...

I had my doubts about this - all the images are stills... (mock-ups?)... There was even a guy who claimed to be one of the developers, he told a lot of stuff - but since then, still no hard info on this game... not a single demo where we could see that there is really an existing source-code, and the website is nothing but a bunch of dead ends <shrug>.

But of course there is a whole spate of conspiracy theories  ;D

I'll not wait for this, if it ever comes it will be a pleasant surprise  ;)
Title: Re: Forest Village
Post by: Fellow Villager on September 12, 2015, 04:24:17 PM
agreed with u
if developer set a kickstarter, i'll never buy it.
Title: Re: Forest Village
Post by: DesoPL on September 13, 2015, 03:43:28 AM
I will buy it if they will release the game, since there is lack of good city builders on steam.

I don't consider buying instead latest Sim City from EA.
Title: Re: Forest Village
Post by: Fellow Villager on September 14, 2015, 02:03:42 AM
i hope it's not a fake.

however, what are your favorite city buildying?
Title: Re: Forest Village
Post by: RedKetchup on September 22, 2015, 09:06:24 AM
they seems to still work on this, if you check the dates and what they did .... they seems to continue it

http://forest-village-game.com/roadmap-finished/ (http://forest-village-game.com/roadmap-finished/)

but..... if you read carefully... the words chosen.... there is something strange...
there an idea in my mind and i dont know if it can be completly false or true...

the words often chosen tells me :
Is it possible Luke sold his game to them ? is it possible they have the code source, and working on it to make it better / modify it ?
the game is essentially the same, but, they often say 'new models' or 'improved graphics' ... on this or on that .... but improved to compare to what ? and what there was there before they 'improved it' ?
like they talk about the cemetary and their fences... nowhere i am aware they already made one before ! so where were from ?

also the guy photo looks abit like Luke :P
maybe i am crazy :P
Title: Re: Forest Village
Post by: Funso on September 22, 2015, 12:10:33 PM
It looks like this game will also give us a grid (if it is legit).

I wish we could rotate buildings on different angles and build roads that curved...  I was always a fan of Tropico 4 for this reason.  Too bad there wasn't a mod community for that.
Title: Re: Forest Village
Post by: Pangaea on September 22, 2015, 01:05:17 PM
It just looks like Banished with better graphics. Unless Luke has okayed this game, surely it's a case of copy and paste? Imagine if this was a "copy" of something EA had released. Ready your lawyers, son! Looks very dodgy to me. I'd hate for somebody to just steal Luke's hard work, improve the graphics a bit, and then cash in.
Title: Re: Forest Village
Post by: RedKetchup on September 22, 2015, 01:10:33 PM
bah Luke made a tons of cash on it. but he doesnt care anymore of this game :( he found some new fun elsewhere, his new projects.
Title: Re: Forest Village
Post by: Pangaea on September 22, 2015, 01:24:18 PM
bah Luke made a tons of cash on it. but he doesnt care anymore of this game :( he found some new fun elsewhere, his new projects.

Banished is banished :(  :'(
Title: Re: Forest Village
Post by: Funso on September 22, 2015, 09:01:19 PM
The more I look at this more interested I get in it.  I hope they provide all the right modding tools.
Title: Re: Forest Village
Post by: Fellow Villager on September 23, 2015, 05:41:25 AM
red, your opinion could explain many things...

for example the silence of luke
i hope he didn't make a thing like that
Title: Re: Forest Village
Post by: DesoPL on September 23, 2015, 06:15:13 AM
Let's say Luke did it, what it means for Forest Village? No one could buy it?

I asking, because i suffer much on lack of good city builder games on steam, since Anno series mostly are for Uplay. Sim City is only 4 on Steam just meh...
Title: Re: Forest Village
Post by: purringcat on September 24, 2015, 01:10:24 AM
Why not ask them if mods done for Banished will work in their game   ::)

"I asking, because i suffer much on lack of good city builder games on steam, since Anno series mostly are for Uplay. Sim City is only 4 on Steam just meh...
DesoPL"

rkelly17 helped me get SC4 up and running by pointing me to GOG which sells a version of SC4 that doesn't crash.
Title: Re: Forest Village
Post by: Fellow Villager on September 24, 2015, 02:49:33 AM
i was thinking the same :-D
Title: Re: Forest Village
Post by: RedKetchup on September 28, 2015, 01:08:28 PM
there are new articles today
http://forest-village-game.com/about-resources/ (http://forest-village-game.com/about-resources/)
Title: Re: Forest Village
Post by: Pangaea on September 28, 2015, 04:14:08 PM
Have to say, I don't like this at all. It's just a Banished skin. Looked up some info, and it didn't exactly calm my fears. I suppose Luke hasn't changed his name and moved to Russia.

Title: Re: Forest Village
Post by: RedKetchup on September 28, 2015, 05:27:14 PM
good to know :)
Title: Re: Forest Village
Post by: DesoPL on September 29, 2015, 12:37:17 AM
*Sighs* That's one of reasons why i am asocial... Most people are lying as hell.
Title: Re: Forest Village
Post by: Fellow Villager on September 29, 2015, 02:24:36 AM
the clash obama-putin even in the village dimension :-D
Title: Re: Forest Village
Post by: DesoPL on September 29, 2015, 06:56:10 AM
*Deeper sigh* Now i don't know how to feel about Forest Village.
Title: Re: Forest Village
Post by: embx61 on October 01, 2015, 04:12:46 PM
As long as those devs not using source code/meshes developed by Luke there is not much he can do legal wise.
Okay, they took his banished idea but if they coded their own engine and the meshes and everything else is made by them themselves it is legal in my view.

Quite a view MMO's are based (Rip offs from) on WoW but Blizzard cannot do anything about it as long as their source code/meshes are not used(stolen).

Someone came up with a Zombie game and now it is zombies games everywhere.
That first one cannot do anything about it.
If something is successful the idea is taken and others hope to hop aboard on the success ride.

Luke should be proud they took his idea. Luke cashed in good with Banished so no real harm is done as long as they not using his source code/engine/meshes without his approval.
Title: Re: Forest Village
Post by: Pangaea on October 01, 2015, 04:29:44 PM
Whether they have managed to decrypt the code and thus steal it, I guess we'll never know, but to me this is a straight copy of Banished with different graphics, and I couldn't spend money on such a product with a clean conscience. That's my position. Others may disagree.

Almost surprised there wasn't a note behind the stuff about a Linux build. "Just hold on until Luke sorts this out, and we'll be right on it."

It's the same game with better graphics anyhow, so I don't see the point in spending money on it. The game play is likely to be the same. Even the crops and buildings are the same from what is revealed so far on the bloke's site.

It's one thing when people are "ripping off" big companies, but this is a one man operation. It simply feels worse to me. This isn't a "Zombie games everywhere" situation either. It's the exact same game with different graphics. Not MMO loosely similar to WOW.
Title: Re: Forest Village
Post by: Tilleen on October 01, 2015, 05:27:17 PM
There does seem to be some extra depth to the game, requiring feeding of animals for instance.

Luke did not come up with the idea of resource based town building games either. Settlers 2 and "Wide Lands" were around for a long time. He definitely added some interesting ideas to the game, the individual named people, an almost real people idea that you have to care for (although that is in the SIMs), the complete lack of combat (which is good in my opinion).

We get better games, engineering, science ..., by people looking at other peoples ideas and saying hey, wouldn't it be better if I did this.... That is essentially was modding does, some just may want to make money for there effort, or feel that the limitation within the system are too tight and want to expand on them.

For the moment, Forrest Village would have to be exceptional above Banished for me to consider it, and a lot of that may come from the modders, if it has a decent modding system.

 
Title: Re: Forest Village
Post by: LadyMarmalade on October 01, 2015, 06:13:11 PM
I think the game will definately be worth a look.  It does seem to be a more polished, graphically superior version of the game and I like the idea of having to provide hay and water for the cattle,etc. The graphics are beautiful too.

As has been said previously, its perfectly normal for a new game to be (or appear to be) a clone of an existing game. All games probably started off as one base game that different developers picked up and took in their own direction. There would be no point in developing a new game based on one that was unpopular or fatally flawed so its inevitable that there are going to be many similarities. To quote a cliché - imitation is the sincerest form of flattery. I'm quite new to Banished so perhaps I don't have the same sense of loyalty that you all have - and I know nothing about the history of the game or of Luke but from what I've read, he's been handsomely rewarded for Banished and appears to have moved on to new pastures.

Games are like any new item.When they first come out they are new and innovative and everyone is excited but sooner or later another one will come along professing to be bigger and better. The point is,if it really IS bigger and better we shouldn't feel bad, as consumers, for going with it. If this new game DOES draw gamers away fom Banished, then Shining Rock can do one of two things - work harder to improve their game and fight to win their fans back or simply accept defeat and move on to the next project.

I agree especially with Tilleen about the complete lack of combat which is, for me, a huge part of the attraction.
Title: Re: Forest Village
Post by: ShockPuppet on October 13, 2015, 03:35:15 AM
What really annoys me is if they have the ability to make this game, then do it with its own flavour. We already have banished. This is not banished 2, its a reskin of banished. I'd be very happy if it took everything good from banished and improved it significantly. It doesn't, its a straight rip off. Forget about modding, the main product is what's important to most people. In those terms, they cloned it. If I was Luke I would be disgusted because where is all the new stuff? No there isn't any (or very little). Even it looks like their 3d houses are all made from cylinders, and they don't use ambient occlusion like Luke did.

More products in the city building genre is great, but not if they are all close to 1:1 clones of each other.
Title: Re: Forest Village
Post by: RedKetchup on October 13, 2015, 05:04:13 AM
yeah agree
Title: Re: Forest Village
Post by: Fellow Villager on December 14, 2015, 11:56:38 AM
boys, the forest villafge site is off line.
maybe it was really a fake
Title: Re: Forest Village
Post by: RedKetchup on December 14, 2015, 12:21:12 PM
really ?

maybe Luke saw it and ... made a copyright complaint :P
and it same time, maybe it is that ... that pushed him to go back to banished ^^


i remember to have sent the link to Luke... in hopes it awakes him ^^
which, i m sure, it worked out well ^^


it is just a "504 Gateway Time-out" lets wait and see :)

but i admit since a month or 2 ... nothing really happended from their side, nothing much happended
Title: Re: Forest Village
Post by: Fellow Villager on December 14, 2015, 02:09:28 PM
me too.
i send an email to luke when he was silent
Title: Re: Forest Village
Post by: DesoPL on December 18, 2015, 04:01:26 AM
Site is working again, but i guess... No news for a while so probably is fake.
Title: Re: Forest Village
Post by: mellowtraumatic on January 18, 2016, 07:43:59 AM
A recent update.

http://forest-village-game.com/recent-months-dev-results/
Title: Re: Forest Village
Post by: RedKetchup on January 18, 2016, 08:56:36 AM
yeah this screenshot is so awesome !
(http://forest-village-game.com/wp-content/uploads/ngg_featured/Sunset-Woods.jpg)
Title: Re: Forest Village
Post by: mellowtraumatic on January 18, 2016, 04:21:07 PM
On this page there's a screenshot of a few pastures and I love to see how the fence conforms to the slope of the land. Looks very nice.

http://forest-village-game.com/game-screenshots/
Title: Re: Forest Village
Post by: Discrepancy on April 26, 2016, 05:47:04 AM
recent post:
http://forest-village-game.com/good-news/ (http://forest-village-game.com/good-news/)

(http://forest-village-game.com/wp-content/gallery/first-person-view/Morning-03.jpg)
Title: Re: Forest Village
Post by: RedKetchup on April 26, 2016, 06:49:51 AM
what i like the most is : all the fluffy vegetation they add everywhere on the map. Banished is only a dull .jpg that cover and paint the ground, FV has tons of fluffy herbs over it. it makes it looks real 3D.
Title: Re: Forest Village
Post by: Tom Sawyer on April 26, 2016, 09:26:27 AM
I like the fog and the light effect. Makes a nice ambiance. But these are only arranged screens. I would like to see a gameplay video. Even with the 3D grass and herbs and the fluffy things. Maybe it is laggy. They have a stable PC version. So they could make a vid.
Title: Re: Forest Village
Post by: solarscreen on May 03, 2016, 07:58:48 PM
I noticed in some comments one of the "programmers" said he knows Banished used the Unity engine.  Hmmm, we know that's not true so whatever these guys are doing, they are not accurate on their info.  I'd like to see more blog posting from all those working on this and their history and some code examples to prove their history.  I'd also like to see some videos of them discussing this game and some interviews with known game bloggers or magazines.

I won't be spending any money until I know more about them.
Title: Re: Forest Village
Post by: RedKetchup on June 24, 2016, 09:28:36 PM
the game just hit Steam Greenlight :)

http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/709170194 (http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/709170194)
Title: Re: Forest Village
Post by: Tom Sawyer on June 25, 2016, 12:55:41 AM
GTX 760 or higher. Phew... I suspected it will need a gaming maschine. That's not for me and maybe it's not a good concept to produce a citybuilding game with this system requirements. The main target audience of a city builder or strategy game has not necessarily a gaming graphic board inside. Let's see.
Title: Re: Forest Village
Post by: paralias on June 25, 2016, 03:14:57 AM
i thought Life is Feudal was just Survival type of game..now they merge with Forest Village, a Strategy,Simulation game and made this one? or was planed from the beggining to be like this? either way i like the concept...
Title: Re: Forest Village
Post by: Discrepancy on June 25, 2016, 03:49:43 AM
from what I know the only link is that they are distributed by the same developer/publisher? one of the developers answered that they just share the same publisher, it's not the same people working on the games (here: LINK (http://steamcommunity.com/workshop/filedetails/discussion/709170194/351660338690371765/)).

I'm looking forward to it. That and the full release of Kingdom Come: Deliverance...
Title: Re: Forest Village
Post by: Gordon Dry on June 25, 2016, 10:41:44 AM
the game just hit Steam Greenlight :)

http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/709170194 (http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/709170194)

I can open this link in the browser (of course) but I can't manage it to find it via the Steam client...
Title: Re: Forest Village
Post by: RedKetchup on June 25, 2016, 12:35:35 PM
the game just hit Steam Greenlight :)

http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/709170194 (http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/709170194)

I can open this link in the browser (of course) but I can't manage it to find it via the Steam client...

it is on greenlight for the moment.
it is not for sale yet, just for votes
Title: Re: Forest Village
Post by: Fellow Villager on June 25, 2016, 05:22:01 PM
it's looks awesome, but it stinks...as before. i'll stand and see
Title: Re: Forest Village
Post by: Fellow Villager on June 26, 2016, 03:42:05 AM
wait, i visited the site of life is feudal..they speak about this game
Title: Re: Forest Village
Post by: Tom Sawyer on June 26, 2016, 04:19:14 AM
Yes it's a franchise. Probably they use stuff from Life is Feudal, models, code etc.. Actually they would have to pay franchise fees to Luke. ;)
Title: Re: Forest Village
Post by: RedKetchup on August 16, 2016, 04:39:16 PM
that picture looks so awesome. i wish banished was more like that

(http://forest-village-game.com/wp-content/gallery/lif-forest-village/First-Person-View.jpg)
Title: Re: Forest Village
Post by: Fellow Villager on August 19, 2016, 01:09:27 PM
i hope the esthetic are lik the substance of the game
Title: Re: Forest Village
Post by: Fellow Villager on August 26, 2016, 04:26:18 PM
bought this game...
seems very good..and it's unmodded
Title: Re: Forest Village
Post by: mellowtraumatic on August 27, 2016, 06:28:20 AM
I got it too but only played a couple of minutes of it. I'll finally play some more tonight. I got sidetracked by watching Stranger Things on Netflix last night.
Title: Re: Forest Village
Post by: st2050 on August 27, 2016, 10:04:38 AM
I find out this addon today and I'm really shocked. Is this a new banished? Will we play it? Will sweet mods be there?

Just look at the interface!
(http://i.imgur.com/UTghVVu.jpg)

Some gameplay: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k3JX6XePsVg
Title: Re: Forest Village
Post by: RedKetchup on August 27, 2016, 10:51:59 AM
it is not an addon ^^ this is another game , a game copied at 80% on banished and made by a russian team
Title: Re: Forest Village
Post by: st2050 on August 27, 2016, 11:02:31 AM
Hello, RedKetchup!

Thanks for your answer. I was surprised to know it, I'm from Russia too. But the questions remain: Will we play it? Will sweet mods be there?
What do you think?

From here: http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/709170194
Mod friendly. Our game is designed to be modder friendly. Game modders will have access to AI, animations, task and resource management, navigation, sounds and many other game systems. Those systems and assets can be completely changed through game scripts written in LUA.
Title: Re: Forest Village
Post by: RedKetchup on August 27, 2016, 11:58:00 AM
yeah but it is not now, maybe in a year they will release something that will allow to make mods for it, but it is not before a good amount of time.
Title: Re: Forest Village
Post by: mellowtraumatic on August 27, 2016, 01:15:07 PM
I hope modding is a little more user friendly than Banished is. I wanted to do some Banished modding and made one and then the compiling process stopped me cold. *lol* I got spoiled with making mods for  games like the Elder Scrolls and Fallout. The process is a heck of a lot easier for those games.
Title: Re: Forest Village
Post by: embx61 on August 27, 2016, 07:43:27 PM
I agree mellowtraumatic.

Luke should really make improvements to the modkit but I won't hold my breath as Banished is over 2 years old.
I have to admit that after many frustrations, one of them made me almost quit modding completely for Banished, I get a bit more the hang of it but still quite some times I have to count to 10 otherwise my keyboard will end up inside my monitor  ;D
But a lot of the progress is because of our community here and some CC devs who are very helpful.

The support from Luke is below average IMHO and I get a bit tired of reading from some on steam who keep saying he is all alone and can only do so much...  blah blah blah.

The least he can do is make flags and limits dynamic, or at least add about 5 to 10 more where we modders can assign the names for them if dynamic is too much trouble.
That alone will help us modders out quite a bit.

I like what I see so far with that Forest Village game.

They apparently had modding in mind from the start and that is always a good thing.
I am not sure but I think Luke decided to add modding support while the game was already in progress and that makes it harder.
Title: Re: Forest Village
Post by: RedKetchup on August 28, 2016, 01:26:09 AM
if happends one day if they do a toolikit for moddling for this game.... i ll open a new section on this forum for this game. till then i will wait and see.
Title: Re: Forest Village
Post by: DesoPL on August 28, 2016, 09:40:52 AM
22 Euro for early access? Idk if is good price for now, i will wait until steam winter sale.
Title: Re: Forest Village
Post by: st2050 on August 28, 2016, 12:08:14 PM
Please post links to the videos from skilled Banished players. The nature looks really good. And yes, this game is really like Banished!

Hehe this guy (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K1iwJsOp350) has all people died because of no firewood, lol.
Title: Re: Forest Village
Post by: Pangaea on August 31, 2016, 06:37:23 AM
This still looks like theft of Banished's source code, so I don't want to buy this and thereby support such practices.

Probably a pretty hopeless task for a single developer like Luke to do anything about it, as it can quickly become a costly legal sinkhole, but it must be infuriating to spend years developing a game with brand new source code, and then somebody simply steals it, glues on some pretty graphics, and releases it as a "new" (lol) game.
Title: Re: Forest Village
Post by: Nilla on August 31, 2016, 07:36:00 AM
@Pangaea, you express my feelings about this game very well.

Nice to see you around again! This page is as active as it ever was. :)
Title: Re: Forest Village
Post by: st2050 on September 04, 2016, 06:37:45 AM
This still looks like theft of Banished's source code

Idea - yes, interface - yes, gameplay - yes. But source code ... hm. How is it possible if the base is "Life is Feudal"? As I am a programmer I say: it's just impossible. Just try to copypaste even few lines the code from one develop platform to another and try to compile - you cannnot do this.
Because of plagiarism of textures in Resurrection mod (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-d8oJ-wlM8M) for Fallout the mod is baned on Nexus and other big sites. But the fact is - this mod is the best realistic complex nature mod for Fallout just like in "Life After People" future-documentary serial. Am I concerned about plagiarism? Exactly so far as I am concerned, that car manufacturers do not pay to the heirs of Rudolf Diesel. Let's leave this problem to lawyers.

New video (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6-Gh5ZD24tk) with beautiful views of nature. The music is nice too.
Title: Re: Forest Village
Post by: Pangaea on September 04, 2016, 10:40:47 AM
Whether these people have stolen the source code itself, reverse engineered it from code snippets posted on Luke's blog, or something else, doesn't really matter to me. It's clear as day this isn't fair play. The game is practically a carbon copy of Banished, with some different graphics. I'm staying well away from that game, and I would hope everybody else on this site would do the same out of respect for Luke and the excellent game he has developed.
Title: Re: Forest Village
Post by: Turis on September 04, 2016, 11:17:02 AM
"Life is feudal" is a first-person view survival and city builder game. It works like kind of Minecraft with skill-based crafting. It's totally different from Banished.
Title: Re: Forest Village
Post by: Gordon Dry on September 04, 2016, 11:57:10 AM
"Life is feudal" is a first-person view survival and city builder game. It works like kind of Minecraft with skill-based crafting. It's totally different from Banished.

I guess you confuse Life is Feudal: You own with Life is Feudal: Forest Village
Title: Re: Forest Village
Post by: Turis on September 04, 2016, 01:36:35 PM
No, I'm not confuse. I'm talking about Life is feudal: you own. I'm guessing life is feudal: forest village is the same game-play.
Title: Re: Forest Village
Post by: Gordon Dry on September 05, 2016, 03:46:06 PM
So you're still guessing...

In Forest Village you CAN switch into a villager but at first it's a "city builder" ...
Title: Re: Forest Village
Post by: mellowtraumatic on September 05, 2016, 04:58:26 PM
I don't know this for sure of course, but the impression that I got was that Forest Village was being made by a small, independent developer and they were unable to finish it themselves and it was taken over by the Life is Feudal people.
Title: Re: Forest Village
Post by: RedKetchup on September 06, 2016, 05:22:06 AM
they certainly didnt "stole" or "copied" their code source !
so they cant be penalized.

though they can make their "own" copy of it by trying to "imitate" it...
that is perfectly legal, i think.

it is same with 3D meshes.
if i use a program to "capture" the 3D draws stored in video memory... or use a program which decode the .pkg packages of a game and pull out the meshes...
and use it ... and i dont have the permission to do it ... it is not legal.

but i can take  take a picture , a screenshot , a .jpg, a .bmp ... and with my 3dsMax and do my "own" 3D mesh based on what i see... thats perfectly legal
Title: Re: Forest Village
Post by: Fellow Villager on September 06, 2016, 09:03:38 AM
let's be serious....banished too is a copy

i see that they are releasing a lot of patch
a think now they relased the total number of patch that luke did
Title: Re: Forest Village
Post by: Pangaea on September 06, 2016, 10:21:25 AM
So much bending over backwards. It must be exhausting.
Title: Re: Forest Village
Post by: Gordon Dry on September 07, 2016, 03:24:11 AM
Actually there is a review that tells enough for a first glance:

http://store.steampowered.com/news/externalpost/rps/243580289129122282
Title: Re: Forest Village
Post by: Turis on September 07, 2016, 04:45:57 AM
The review is impressive.
Title: Re: Forest Village
Post by: Abandoned on September 30, 2016, 09:13:14 PM
This is the first I've heard of Forest Village, that review sounds like they are talking about Banished, strange. Coincidence, I think not. Life is Feudal, Serf City of 1994 and its successor Settler II were quite different than this Forest Village or Banish. The goal was to build your settlement, farms, mines, and troops then either settle the most land or take out the enemy.  In my opinion, 3D graphics ruined the Settler series.  I hope the makers of these great Banish mods I've downloaded aren't going to abandon Banish in favor of fancy 3D graphics. The items you make are fantastic, the details are amazing, can't wait to try them all and I look forward to more of them.  And I think the developer of Banish made a really great game, I love the changing seasons, the rain and the snow, and the crops. That being said, I agree, the other game does look good.  So does Banish and your mods.
Title: Re: Forest Village
Post by: QueryEverything on December 30, 2016, 12:43:40 AM
I have been wanting LiF:FV for months, and I finally bought it the other day.  It's good, I do like it, though I find some of it cumbersome, and needs a better knowledgebase, and a better tutorial, but a lot of games are this way. 

I have been playing Wurm Online for over 4yrs, it's a similar concept to Banished & LiF:FV, you need to settle, build and has the bonus of a highly active community, PVE or PVP events, and it's a subscription based model with active development.  No modders, as it's a hosted game.

As we don't know what source code (if any) was used from Banished, or even if it's been borrowed, or licensed, it's a dangerous game accusing devs of copyright when it can't be confirmed that they are. 

The game has so many similarities to Banished, but so too to Wurm.  One could argue that each are taken from even earlier games.

The problem with these accusations, is that it doesn't help grow gaming communities and encourage developers, yes Luke has built a great game, but, let's be honest, he's rather made it 'abandonware' rather than an ongoing platform, my loyalty to Luke, Banished and the community only goes so far as to the game itself.  The legalities of other games, unless proven one way or another, is of no consequence to me either.  If I like the game, the genre, the platform I will invest in it.  If it turns out that the game uses source code that has been stolen, borrowed or selectively taken, then I will simply request a refund and go on my way, until then though, I play it.

I guess the only way to prove it one way or another is to be access the source code, compare to Banished and submit the findings to Luke to follow up.

So, in the meantime, if you like the genre, like the look of it, I'd say go & buy it and enjoy it.  It's good, but needs some finetuning, and as an early access game, it's been worth the money I spent on it.  I've spent money on worse, for more.

Cheers :)