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Title: World of Warcraft
Post by: mariesalias on June 16, 2014, 01:47:04 AM
It seems we have a few members at least who still play WoW, as well as some more who used to at one time or another. I always find it fun to hear about peoples' mains and favorite toons and classes. What brought them to the game, what they enjoy/ed about it, and what keeps them playing or caused them to leave.

It would be great to hear other people's experiences and stories of the game! 
Title: Re: World of Warcraft
Post by: Kaldir on June 16, 2014, 05:36:54 AM
I've played WoW since christmas 2005, about half a year after it was introduced in Europe. I bought the game for my wife two days before christmas, not being slightly interested myself. She played all night and I watched all night, and at 9 am the next morning I was the first customer of the day in the local games shop and bought my own copy. The server we played on was a new one for christmas, so it was full with low level, over-enthousiastic, new players, which was much fun.

My wife created a night elf druid and I created a dwarf paladin, but because we wanted to play together, I walked my level 5 paladin all the way to Darnassus. The boat was going from Menethil those days, so it involved walking through level 20 area. I've seen more graveyards that one walk then the first 20 levels after that.

My current main was made about 2 months later, another dwarf paladin, named Kaldir. He's always been holy, because I like it most. I really dislike retri (might as well play a warrior then :D ) and tried prot a couple of times, but always went back to holy. He even leveled holy, although often with my wife's druid or mage. That char is nearing a /played time of 300 days I think.

My most epic battle was at level 40 I think, fresh in plate armor, killing a huge drake in the Badlands that was 5 levels higher. Back then when a creature had a red level tag, it really meant you shouldn't try it. But I wanted to test the theory that a holy paladin didn't die easily. That fight lasted for more than 20 minutes (I used my Lay on Hands twice), because a holy paladin really doesn't do much damage. But because I didn't take much damage either and could mitigate it, I could leave the fight alone for a minute now and then to make tea and lunch. Sadly the loot was only some grey item.

Edit: link to my main - http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/khadgar/kaldir/advanced
Title: Re: World of Warcraft
Post by: RedKetchup on June 16, 2014, 06:15:42 PM
haha nice Kaldir :)

bah me i started as a dwarf priest for many years, now i play hunter since ... 3 years :)

http://us.battle.net/wow/en/character/windrunner/Redketchup/advanced (http://us.battle.net/wow/en/character/windrunner/Redketchup/advanced)
Title: Re: World of Warcraft
Post by: slink on June 17, 2014, 06:34:42 AM
I experienced WoW only as a detriment to my online NWN characters, and as a bad example for an online virtual life community owner.  I did play Orc vs Humans, when it was an offline game.  It was too much about war, for me.

In the second online NWN world in which I played for any great length of time, my main character lost her husband when his Finnish player got WoW for Christmas.   I believe that my character's husband's player thought I should have shelved my character until he got tired of WoW, but that wasn't going to happen.  She was an important figure in the world and shelving her would have been the end of her in any practical sense.  I'm pretty sure he didn't understand that aspect of her life.  I know his character didn't.  She also lost her partner on the beat (they were magistrates), when his player migrated to WoW.  That player said WoW was nothing but killing stuff and leveling, but at least no one pretended otherwise.  I was sad when he said that, because I did role-play my NWN characters, but I understood because many did not.  Things got rather sordid and nasty for her after those two left, because she married the character of someone who was more about head-games with other players than about telling stories with the characters, but she continued nobly on until the player of the regent she served also left.  At that point she faded into the Shadow Realm and was resurrected on another server, and stayed single. 

I did however play her daughter on the server where she was resurrected.  The daughter got married, lived fairly happily, and had twins.  At that point, she and her family (including her mother) moved to yet another server, on which they lived peacefully until I had my own server running.  In the end, all of my characters, minor and major, ended up living on my own world.  Running a world was a lot of work, but it was also a lot of fun.  I ran that world for a little over two years, by which time the rest of the players had either gotten a promotion and didn't have time to play because they had greater responsibilities, gotten their work shift changed and didn't have time to play because they were working during game times, gotten fired and didn't have time to play because they were looking for work, or suddenly realized they had exams to pass so they could graduate college start looking for work.  Darn work, anyway.   ;D

The bad example WoW set for the owner of a virtual pet community was that he decided that if WoW made it's creators rich, then his game could make him rich if he only could attract the same gaming community.  Thus he introduced both crafting and combat into a very peaceful and laid back group of virtual pet game players.  Some of us took to crafting like a house afire, which was very bad for the game's economy, as it always was in NWN.  The difference was that no one was trying to make money from NWN worlds.  Hardly anyone took to the combat, because they just weren't that kind of people.  I mean, think about people who want to play with virtual cats and dogs, building homes for them and dressing them up.  Are those the kind of people who want to pay cash to buy swords and then use them to fight?  Many of them didn't even like the crafting, and that made free things.  The owner ended up killing off the world entirely, trying to make money from the crafting by strangling it until it died, and then even destroying the value of items for which we had paid cash.  He fired all of his staff and ran the server in his apartment for awhile, and then shut it down.  Last time I heard of him, he had just been fired from a Facebook game company.  The moral of the story is probably that there is only one WoW.

If I hadn't had NWN in which to play online, I might have tried WoW regardless of the warlike aspects of Orcs vs Humans.  I feel lucky in that sense, no offense intended to the players of WoW.   :)
Title: Re: World of Warcraft
Post by: Kaldir on June 17, 2014, 09:27:34 AM
The moral of the story is probably that there is only one WoW.

There are too many companies, big and small, that tried to imitate WoW. Most have failed. It takes at least some creativity and originality to make something attractive.

If I hadn't had NWN in which to play online, I might have tried WoW regardless of the warlike aspects of Orcs vs Humans.  I feel lucky in that sense, no offense intended to the players of WoW.   :)

None taken here. :)   WoW was fun for many (including me), but it certainly would not fit anyone. No game would.
Title: Re: World of Warcraft
Post by: mariesalias on June 17, 2014, 12:22:48 PM
@Kaldir  First Grats on the Raiding with Leashes achieve! That is one I want (well, I want the pets), I fail at grinding stuff though. My husband and I started similarly to you and your wife! I also have fond memories of fighting drakes in the Badlands with my husband, as well as Swamp of Sorrows. I have also made the run through the Wetlands! From Teldrassil to Ironforge (usually), on so many toons early on (all my alliance toons) that by the end, I knew exactly where every crockilisk, murloc,  raptor, orc, and spider was along the the path in the wetlands. I agree, so many deaths! But I really do have fond memories of those runs and at level 10, I make all my horde hunters make that run (from nostalgia) and tame certain pets along the way.

I can sympathize with you over leveling as a holy pally. My husband and I leveled much of our mains in classic with my best friend who played a holy pally and I remember how painfully slow it was for him leveling on his own (until plaguelands, anyway :D)
 
I see you have been doing some pet battling/collecting, what do you think of this aspect of the game? Over the years, what has been your favorite parts of playing WoW? Is it different from what you enjoy doing in game now?



@RedKetchup  I also play a survival hunter. I started out as a terribad SV melee hunter. Until my then, teenaged son, took me aside and explained that just because I was SV didn't I should not use a gun/bow. After that early experience, I leveled and played as Marksman until we got to Arthas in ICC in Wrath. Had to switch for that fight to SV (for utility) and I never ended up switching back. I did try MM again in Cata but I did not like how it felt then. I briefly played as BM in BC because I was told any good hunter was playing BM then but it was too boring to play, so I went back to MM. Have never had a desire to play as Beast Mastery again.

I see that you are working your way through heroic Siege now, impressive! My guild only does normal, though because of a shortage of raiders this expansion, we had to start out with flex. What do you think of the new difficulty levels? Does heroic feel mythic? What have you thought of the raids so far this expansion? What has been your favorite one so far? Least favorite boss?

Oh yeah, nice work on the Insane title! That is a huge amount of work and time!

ETA: I'll post more about my own experiences later as I am out-of-time now. Thank you both for sharing your experiences! I hope you will share more! I love hearing how different people experience the same games. What we love/hate about it may be completely different then what someone else loves/hates about it.

My main:
http://us.battle.net/wow/en/character/skywall/Kryselyn/advanced

p.s. I mistakenly applied the wrong transmog to my pants, I have better fashion sense then that. ;p  And the Paragons keep resetting my title to GoC, not sure why?
Title: Re: World of Warcraft
Post by: mariesalias on June 17, 2014, 12:29:47 PM
@slink  I am sorry WoW took so many of your gaming friends away from NWN! It does sound like you had a lot of fun in your games though! I used to try RPing on WoW RP servers (ones that actually did RP, but I am too shy or self-conscious I think. I get embarassed! I used to love RPing with DnD though, so I am not sure why it is different for me online. 

No offfense taken, every game is not for everyone. :) I like hearing about your NVN experiences. It is always interesting and fun to hear/read others stories about the games they love!

Title: Re: World of Warcraft
Post by: slink on June 17, 2014, 02:25:10 PM
I don't know how I would feel RPing with my husband in the game with me.  It would probably feel weird, especially with him sitting right next to me.  It was strange sometimes playing with other couples, when the husbands and wives were evidently communicating out-of-character in real-life.  The rest of us were rather obviously only hearing half of their conversations, at best.  One of the keys to RP for me is to forget the people behind the other characters.  I don't mean forgetting that there are real people behind the characters.  That would be cruel.  I just don't think about who the other players are, and what they are like, while I am being my character.  That would be very difficult to do with the players in the same room with me.  In some very special cases, I did develop friendships with other players, and we sometimes commented to each other on the private channel just as if we were only observers and not the motivating forces behind our characters.  It did detract from the RP immersion, though, if we did that too much.

Title: Re: World of Warcraft
Post by: Kaldir on June 17, 2014, 02:48:06 PM
@Kaldir  First Grats on the Raiding with Leashes achieve! That is one I want (well, I want the pets), I fail at grinding stuff though.

Thanks. Droprate on that one isn't too bad. Thankfully, since I really dislike Naxx, and can't solo BWL (not enough dps for that first/second boss  :-[ ). Did this mostly with my wife though. I've done Molten Core plenty and had many pets drop, while gathering my transmog set.

I can sympathize with you over leveling as a holy pally. My husband and I leveled much of our mains in classic with my best friend who played a holy pally and I remember how painfully slow it was for him leveling on his own (until plaguelands, anyway :D )

Hehe, plaguelands were heaven (uhm, sort of) indeed, together with Stratholme and Scholomance. I leveled a lot with my wife though, which made it much faster. I don't mind the slow though. There is a lot in WoW that is too fast for me anyway.

I see you have been doing some pet battling/collecting, what do you think of this aspect of the game?

The collecting was partially done over the years, and is a cool aspect of the game in my opinion. The pet battles were done by my wife. I find them pretty boring myself.

@RedKetchup  [..] Oh yeah, nice work on the Insane title! That is a huge amount of work and time!

Congrats indeed, @RedKetchup. That one is named very appropriately for the work it involves.

Over the years, what has been your favorite parts of playing WoW? Is it different from what you enjoy doing in game now?

(Warning: long answer  ;D )

Well, I really don't like raiding. I've occasionally joined with a really relaxed guild with several of my friends in it, but it just doesn't work for me. Always waiting for someone in the group (okay, that might have been because they were too relaxed), and when it finally starts, too much chaos and too fast for me to decently respond. And voicechat really doesn't work for me. And too much trying the same boss over and over again. When I'm healing a large group, all I see is health bars and not much else. Tanking is even worse for me, as you are supposed to know the fight and you have absolutely no overview standing on top (more like, right under) a boss. And the loot is nice, but it's just numbers and doesn't interest me that much.
My first ever raid was UBRS (when it was still 10 man), and it felt like complete chaos. After that, I've done Molten Core, Zul'Gurub (the original) and AQ20/40. It was okay to do once in a while, and nice to see instances I could never enter/survive on my own, but it never did much for me.

I've enjoyed battlegrounds now and then, but am too slow for them. Arena is even worse. Good thing about a holy paladin though is that you don't die quickly, and you can heal from a fair distance. But all in all, it's too fast and chaotic for me.

Doing stuff beyond the standard (raiding, bg's, leveling) was often the most fun. I've done guild races (who is the first from Booty to Ironforge, over land). Guild parties on one of the high up lakes in Terokkar. Or just sitting at Loch Modan talking to a friend, bringing lots of wood and renewing the camp fire every 5(?) minutes. I truely loved the huge world, waiting to be explored. Just walking around, doing quest here and there. My server is a pretty decent, easy going one, without much verbal abuse (relatively), making it a relaxed atmosphere. I've more than once referred to WoW as being a graphical instant messenger client.
The European servers have a lot of nationalities on them (just no french and german, as they have their own servers), and it's nice to talk to people from different cultures. I always tried to hide the fact that I'm Dutch though, as Dutch tend to be vocal and blunt, especially in groups.

When TBC went live, the starting area was so crowded it wasn't fun anymore. Fifteen people fighting over the same boar. So when WotLK went live, my wife and I decided to skip both starting area's and do the Explore Nothrend achievement first. At level 70 we walked through all the areas of Northrend, helped a lot by my holy build (bubbles!). We ran into trouble in Storm Peaks, with only a small area reachable without flying or questing. We jumped into the water in Zul'Drak and swam all the way to the north part of Stormpeaks and died there from drowning (or eaten by sharks, I don't remember). Ressing on the graveyard worked to get further. We did some more strategic dying and ressing to get the whole map. It was pretty fun to have the explorer title at level 70, and after that it was slightly less crowded in Howling Fjord.

I'm a completionist (and my wife even more), but it has to compete with my dislike of grinding. Achievements were a good new feature for me, always giving you something weird or impossible to do. I also like the professions (Blacksmithing and Enchanting on this one), especially the secondaries. I did a lot of archaeology and really loved what they did with cooking and farming in Pandaria. We're also hoarders, and can probably craft almost anything pre-Panda with mats from one of my four bank alts, without having to buy anything.

As much as I dislike raiding and full group instancing, I did a lot of them with just my wife. She as bear tank, me as holy, doing instances and raids as well as we could. That way we could take our time (and needed to with our lack of dps). It also helps that our computers are next to each other on the same table. It's a relaxed way of stressing over not killing fast enough or not knowing the tactics. We've duo'd almost all instances and raids from vanilla to Northrend, except ICC which was too depressing to our taste, all Cata instances and several Panda instances.

Kudo's if you read it all up to here. :)   More than eight years of playing WoW makes for good memories. It was also a very good, and often only, way to relax when I had a burnout several years ago and was home for months. The last two years I play on and off, often disabling my account for some months and picking it up again later. My account is disabled now too, but we did pre-order the next expansion.
Title: Re: World of Warcraft
Post by: ertira on June 20, 2014, 12:26:07 PM
 Started playing Warcraft in November of 2007. Was considering retirement and wanted to find a hobby that I could throw myself into. I have a lot of hobbies.  :D Gardening, plants, reading, music, backpacking etc... but wanted to return to computers in a limited way. Not professionally. After 28 years in the dinosaur age of computers did not even touch one for about 8 years. Spent a little over a year studying the various games out there using the local library. Chose Warcraft for the diversity and never looked backed. Had to buy a computer to play it. Lol. Still using it.

 Have 44 characters and counting. All Horde. My Main is a Retribution Paladin. I am a solo player and gave up raiding in the Cata xpac. I currently have 6 guilds, 5 used for storage and 1 main guild I am leveling to 25. Need 4 bars. I am a major grinder. I have 6 level 90's and 5 level 88's or higher. The rest are poised between 1 and 40 :). I have 2 accounts and utilize 2 servers that have combined, Leveling the guild to 25 as a solo player is my major current challenge. I enjoy leveling my toons very much. My next challenge is the Stay Classy Achievement with 1 90 or 85 of each race and class. I need another realm merge or a new account to accomplish this so have been putting it off. Hence the toons froze at mid 30's and 40's.

  My main "Ertirawen" is the achiever for my team of Ertiras. I approach Warcraft as a team composed of different individuals. Only thing is all the members are of my accounts. Every spoke in the wheel contributes to the overall welfare.

  I have 1 of each crafting profession at least but really enjoy boring old gathering. I have way to much stuff in my guilds as once a packrat always a packrat. :). Many things as a solo player are out of reach due to my not liking the raiding scene as it currently sits. I dislike epeens, afk'ers, moaners and complainers. Being told how to spec, how to gear, where to stand and when to be there irks me. I find the general raiding scene to be too caught up in not failing which is a shame as not being able to laugh at your deaths took a lot of fun out of it.  I do my thing. If you gank my babies, I hunt you down. :) So if playing and you gank one of toons I first walk up to your your face, do a /lol, /slap then attack, When dead, I log onto a hunter/killer. Go to the zone, Do a /lol, /slap, attack and /spit on your dead carcass. Then I sit down and wait for your next lesson. LoL. Having multiple friends as GM's of competitive  raiding and PvP oriented guilds has been very rewarding. Especially if they call out for friends. Dying and I in Warcraft are very good friends. Best death was in Hellfire/Outlands. Was so caught up in getting to a vein of ore rode off the end of the world. Horses tail was sticking straight up, and we were both screaming. Oh my. A long way down in Outlands.  ::)

  All my toons have  to reach exalted with the Kah'luak (spelling?) because I really like the pole. LoL. I normally level the newbies in Ghostlands regardless of race. I have leveled each horde zone but prefer Ghostlands. Caught 10k fish from pools which was fun. 1 fishie at a time. Oh well I do like like grinding. Only reason I will roll an Alliance character will be for the mounts. Will get me over 200+ then. I do have many friends that play Alliance and we keep in touch and often play together which is unique in its way.

 I will be somewhat saddened with the Warlords release as they are further making the game easier and easier, catering to the I Want it Now Crowd. I view crafting professions to be a waste come the new release, changes to specs and classes are not to my liking. All my classes/specs are DPS oriented. No tanks no healers. Do not dual spec. Am not into transmogging nor pet battles. I kill, gather, search and generally have a blast.
 Will probably return to Civ 5 and play some new stuff that has caught my eye. Will continue to play WoW but only as a sometime instead of every day.

   Oh well, so much like Banished. So many different ways to play.
Title: Re: World of Warcraft
Post by: Kaldir on June 20, 2014, 12:59:05 PM
Sounds like you're having fun with it, @ertira.  :)

With that amount of grinding and a free choice in what class to take with you, there is a lot you can achieve on your own. If your computer could handle it, which I doubt with one from 2007, you could log in a second char to help you on auto attack (hunter for instance) and as cannon fodder. My wife and I do that sometimes, especially when I only had a holy paladin and we really needed some more dps. And with 3 accounts, we could do guild scenario's.

My wife also has two accounts, and our guild (just one) is just the two of us with one active alt from a friend of ours and a few from some friends who quit a while back. We (read: my wife) got our guild to level 25 some time ago.
I myself never did much alting. I tried it now and then, but never got above level 40. Until a while back, when I got two free level 90 upgrades, one from pre-ordering the next expansion, the other from resurrecting my account (I think). I had quite some fun with a shaman and mage, next to my paladin. I die a lot more though!

Oh well, so much like Banished. So many different ways to play.

Definitely!
Title: Re: World of Warcraft
Post by: ertira on June 20, 2014, 02:19:28 PM
@Kaldir
 
Yes it is amazing how much fun can be had playing anything with the correct mindset. :) I just keep adding stuff to the old computer, which is really not old anymore. Works although the last map I played "Sanctuary" taxed it a lot. Even had the game stall about every 10 minutes. Time to add another Graphics card. At least 1.5gb should work, Will keep old card installed and use it for the 2nd screen in WoW, or forum lookups, You Tube for music etc... . Am using an HP as I like the company, no longer interested in the latest stuff, just what works. I think maybe the 2000 people in Sanctuary had something to do with it :) Am using a 23" HP monitor so split screen works well enough to do both accounts at same time. In fact did MoP Beta and normal account at same time.  Love the game a lot. Have a lot of hours in it.

 As far as the free 90's. They are on hold. Named a Panderan Monk after my mother. Have a Shammie I want to name after my Dad, so 1 freebie is taken. As for the 2nd one....hmmmm whatever is needed at the time I suppose. Nice thing about being a bachelor. My money. May buy me 90's LoL. Let's see 33 x 60 Hmmmm.  :-\  WindWalker and Enchancement should do well together.  As soon as I start the rush to level will pair up a 90 with a 15 and shoot em up fairly fast. Full BoA gear equipped plus rested experience will help.  Can solo most 70-80 raids, 80's on Normal. Have 6 classes to help them, soon to be 11 as the 88's and higher are within a few days to a week max from 90 plus have Timeless gear ready for them (Timeless is an Altoholics dream and has saved so much time) probably the Monk and Shadow Priest will do well as the escorts. AoE, Heals, Rez ability and face melting should work. Pally would be ok but she has her nose up in the air with more important stuff :) Will start the level grind around September. Priorities though will be a 55 on the other 3 to make a DK and to get my 5 alt guilds back on main account. Altoholic is awesome as an addon but very poor in regards to multiple accounts.

   :) Ertira
Title: Re: World of Warcraft
Post by: Kaldir on June 20, 2014, 03:21:07 PM
Timeless is a dream for altoholics (or non-raiders) indeed, but a bit of a storage nightmare as well. :D  It's good for disenchanting too, now that it's still useful.

My WoW is frozen right now. After Timeless got boring, I've not played much. I might play a bit now and then before the expansion, or just resurrect myself again when it goes live. :)
Title: Re: World of Warcraft
Post by: slink on June 20, 2014, 03:26:56 PM
Reading this thread is an education, let me tell you.  *wide-eyed look*  I can see why WoW is so popular.  Most (all?) other online games I have ever played actually forbade multiple accounts and at the very least unofficially frowned upon personal assistance between players.  There were various ways around those restrictions, of course, but the rules were there.  WoW has obviously faced reality and simply said "If you can afford it, you can do it."  No wonder they have succeeded.  *grin*
Title: Re: World of Warcraft
Post by: Kaldir on June 20, 2014, 04:27:13 PM
Always good if a thread is educational, next to entertaining. :D

"Personal assistance between players" is kind of the the basis of an MMO game, I think. Well, that and smashing each others head in, in PvP or verbally on general chat channels.

For other online games it might not be so, especially for the more competitive ones. But WoW is based upon being part of a faction, a guild and other groups, in which working together is key. A strong we-against-them feeling, whether 'them' is other players or npc's.
Title: Re: World of Warcraft
Post by: slink on June 20, 2014, 07:25:52 PM
Of course it is natural for people to help each other, if they are playing on the same side.  That is why it is silly to have rules against it.  When I ran my NWN world, I told people they could do whatever they liked with the stuff they either made or got as loot.  They could transfer it between their own characters or give it to others.  I even provided public persistent chests for the purpose, in case there was no one else on the server to help out.  The only thing they could not do was play evil, or indulge in PvP including stealing from others.  There were plenty of monsters for the purpose of stress relief, some of whom were almost too nasty for words.  There were also the rats and bats kind of battles if you wanted to grind, and XP was handed out for crafting.  There were one or two dungeons specifically for thieves, which were heavy on randomly generated traps and trapped chests.  You could make cash by mining for minerals, and there were stores that sold some pretty good stuff.  The very best crafted things were highly customizable.  Everybody who RPed their characters as a part of the world got their own place for that character, be it a tent or a house.  There were riding horses whose saddlebags accessed private persistent storage.  I created some custom familiars, and I even created on request two new races of Elves with their tribal territories.  It was everything in one server that I had ever liked about servers I had played on, plus my chance to show off.  Such a shame the real world took away my valued players, but good for them, at least for all but the one who got fired.
Title: Re: World of Warcraft
Post by: mariesalias on June 21, 2014, 01:08:18 PM
I am not ignoring this thread, I just need more time to comment to it then I currently have in one chunk. I am enjoying reading everyone's posts though. :)  I will make one about my own experiences too, soon.
Title: Re: World of Warcraft
Post by: Juliana on June 23, 2014, 05:05:58 AM
Well, I am new here.  I just bought “Banished” in the Steam Summer Sale…I have been having some errr… issues, and stumbled on this site.  My goodness, you all are a FRIENDLY group around here.  That is Oh So VERY nice to see… because, yes, I came from WoW.  Ugh!  Lol  And not ‘Ugh’ at the game per se, as more the community there is just so awful at times. 

Anyhow… I started WoW in August 2006.  The ONLY online games I had ever played were (no laughing here) The Sims Online, Second Life and Club Pogo.  Good grief how nerdy is that?  HA!  A friend from The Sims Online had talked me into getting Diablo 2, which I really just hated.  But it came with a free trial to WoW.  I had heard a LOT of people talking about this game, and I was a little put off by the whole killing / combat thing.  But my kids were at their dad’s for the weekend and I was bored so I said “What the hell….?” 

Oh good lord…that was the end for me… well sorta.  I rolled a mage, human.  Magic!  YES!! Yay!  Started off in Northshire Abbey with NO IDEA what in the world I was doing.  Got propositioned by some naked “chick” in the first 5 minutes.  (I THOUGHT THIS WAS A KILLING GAME??? Sheesh!) 

But then, I got to Goldshire.  Got that quest, to go in that stupid! Dumb! Horrible! Mine! and kill Kabolds.  Ok I had NO idea about that whole silly “agro” thing.  Oh dear, it was bad.  I got killed, repeatedly!  When I would run back to rez, I also was unaware I could rez over in a “safe spot” and just kept rezzing right on top of my corpse… and BAM!!!  Dead again!! 

I was a little frustrated!!  So I logged out, looked over the classes and read that Warriors, wear plate, are hard to kill, take lots of damage.  Ok this maybe is what I need!!  Rerolled a Nightelf Warrior!  I wont say I didn’t die…but it was much LESS often! Haha!  But the leveling thing and trying to figure it all out, I was hooked!!

A couple of days later, I was in Darkshores, on that mountain, about to accept a quest.  Standing in that blue light thing, and some random dude whispered me to group up.  Ok, I guess.  I had grouped for one quest before and then couldn’t figure out how to leave group!! DOH!  But we did a few quests, and a few more… and this guy was SO HELPFUL!!  I thought he was a WoW God!  He wasn’t lol.  When I asked how long he had been playing he said “About 2 weeks, I read the book that came with the game!”

We have been playing WoW together ever since that night!  My online BFF!!  We have leveled so many characters together.  We have raided so many hours together.  Laughed at SO many silly, crazy ways we have found to die together.  We currently are on a break from the game.  His computer is broken, and I am just enjoying other games that are out and around. 

I’ve met quite a few people since then in WoW.  I have some really GREAT friends from the game.  To me, that is what was SO AMAZING about WoW!  It’s a good game, I won’t deny that.  From stepping up to tank Prince in Kara for the first time, scared out of my wits….to tanking Garrosh before we stopped playing (Yes, I kept my warrior, she has been my main ever since that day I created her!), it has been a hell of a ride.  But the friendships I found there, have always been my favorite part of the game! 

Oh and as for my “issues” in Banished…I think I have those figured out, thanks to all of you who take the time to post helpful hints and strats… it HELPS! *hugs to all*
Title: Re: World of Warcraft
Post by: slink on June 23, 2014, 09:31:34 AM
Got propositioned by some naked “chick” in the first 5 minutes.  (I THOUGHT THIS WAS A KILLING GAME??? Sheesh!) 
And I thought there was no RP on WoW servers.  *giggles*

Welcome to the World of Banished forum, Juliana.

slink aka Sandra
Title: Re: World of Warcraft
Post by: RedKetchup on June 23, 2014, 10:27:10 AM
welcome @Juliana :)
Title: Re: World of Warcraft
Post by: mariesalias on June 23, 2014, 12:07:56 PM
Welcome @Juliana! Sounds like you have had a lot of fun with WoW over the years!


Okay, I've been typing up my beginning in Wow for a few days in notepad (not all at once, I am not that slow!).

WoW, the beginning:

My husband and I could only afford one copy of WoW at release so since my husband wanted it so badly (I did too, just not as much), he officially got the first copy then. I played it on his computer though almost as much as he did. I worked much longer hours so had less time. I finally was able to get my own copy at the beginning of February 2005. My husband started out as a troll rogue and I started out as a troll hunter because he had friends who played on the (PVP) server (Blackrock). I really wanted to play a nightelf so we made alliance toons on another (PVP) server (Archimonde), both nightelves, I a hunter, and he a rogue. I am not huge on fighting games, and by the end of the year, all his gaming friends had gone back to Eve Online so the world PVP was not as fun for him. By that time, I was to the point of hating PVP servers. It is all we had played on but after working 10 hours, coming home to relax and de-stress and then get constantly ganked and corpse-camped was NOT my idea of fun. I had a couple times where the frustration got to the point where I cried. I was ready to quit.

Luckily, we had a friend who played on a PVE server and he encouraged us to roll new toons on Skywall. Sadly for us, he stopped playing a few months later, but we kept playing. After a year of playing on PVP servers, playing on a PVE server was much different...I could actually quest past level 20 without getting ganked constantly! I even started doing battlegrounds for fun and have fond memories of hanging out in Ashenvale with others waiting to be able to enter the battleground (back before it ported you directly). The first toon I made on Skywall was a nightelf hunter, and she has remained my main since then. Her first actual pet was a boar from Westfall and that same boar is still her preferred pet all these years later. My husbans made another NE rogue and that rogue is still his main. We both have a main alt we also play (more in Cata though), mine is a resto shaman, his is a blood DK. As main DPSers, we really wanted to get a feel for the other types of roles, as well. Tanking is a little too stressful for me, and healing is for him. :D

We didn't begin to start raiding until the end of BC. That is also around when we found our current guild. We had always wanted to raid, having been in various guilds over the years, listening to the raiders discuss it in chat so much, but we really had no idea. I was pretty anti-PUG myself as I had some horrible experiences back in Deadmines on my main with players who just had no idea how to play their classes and were not interested in learning. So I swore off it. Our current guild got us back into it though we their 25-man Naxx runs. Once we tasted raiding, that was it for us. We worked our way up from raiding alts for the regular 10-man team until we became part of the main team and I'd say raiding has been the most enjoyable aspect of WoW for us ever since. It is the only thing that will make me grind gear. ;D 

We have never unsubbed in all these years, though we have taken breaks from playing for a month or two at a time occasionally. Not in LK or Cata though. When I was pregnant with my son, I was unable to play much so I spent a couple years dominating parts of the Auction House (a game in itself ;p). Once I could play freely again though, I lost interest in the AH. Mists is the least active we've been in WoW for years. The rep grinding at end-game has been just too tedious for me! This whole expansion I have pretty much played to raid, and our guild got off to a slow start this time around because of lower guild numbers/raiding-ready players/toons. Not enough raiders is still an on-going issue! We may actually have to take a break from raiding as our RL just banned one of the members from any further raids as he has not shown up to two raids now nor contacted anyone prior to the raids. :(

Title: Re: World of Warcraft
Post by: Sup3rvillain on July 03, 2014, 04:35:39 PM
WoW was the second MMO i played (Prior to Tibia) and it's still my favorite despite no longer playing it.


Started playing a warrior first when BC was first released, big mistake.

Eventually hit 70 after like 4-5 months, i hated leveling and still do. Played my warrior through all of BC, i was just a casual player really. I completed kara though, and had a good PvP setup going.

Then came wrath and rolled a hunter, cleared all the major raids for wrath in reg/heroic. Cata hit and i stopped raiding, completely hated everything about cata expansion.

Finally MoP came around and by the end of wrath i had rolled a druid. Started playing resto and only did pvp. 2400 RBG/2200 Arena at the start of MoP but since then have not done much. I occasionally log in but it's not the same game i grew up loving.


In my opinion i think things such as Looking for Group and Raid Finder is what made WoW so lack-luster of the years. Blizzards attempt to simplify the game and open end-game content to everyone was a doubled edged sword. Yeah it gave a lot of casuals opportunities to experience end-game content. But essentially things like LFG/Raid Finder turned an MMO into a single player game.

What i mean is the friends i made in WoW came about when i was searching for dungeon groups. You had to interact with people.. now all you have to do is push a button and wait. So yeah, that's my WoW story. Made a lot of good friends from the game through so it's all good. Even attended a wedding for a friend i had met who lives across the US from me lol.
Title: Re: World of Warcraft
Post by: mariesalias on July 03, 2014, 06:33:49 PM
@Sup3rvillain   Welcome to the forums!  :)

WoW was not my first MMO either, but it has been best I've tried so far. I have to agree that WoW is not the game it used to be.
But then, I am not sure it could have stayed the same and have kept being a successful MMO.

Cata was not a great expansion to raid, IMO. Deathwing should have been so much more epic of a fight! I had been looking forward to the day we'd get to finally fight Deathwing and it was a disappointment. The Lich King fight, on the other hand, had an epic feel to it. My guild still does ICC and Ulduar for fun sometimes, for the feels and memories. Between the uninspiring DW fight and having to grind the hell out of the content for the legendary staff and daggers, we still do not want to set foot in any Cata raids for fun. Cata was good for those that enjoy leveling and lore, though!

Mists has been to much grinding for my tastes, especially rep. I play only to raid now, really. I am hoping the next expansion will be better. There are things I am looking forward to, like Garrisons, oh, and hunters actually get a tier set without dead animals on it! ;D
Title: Re: World of Warcraft
Post by: Sup3rvillain on July 03, 2014, 09:19:04 PM
@mariesalias
I didn't like anything about cata haha, even the flying in azeroth i disliked. Ruined exploration and hindered world pvp a lot.

But even though WoW has gone through it's glory days it's still at the top. A lot of games (Elder Scrolls/Rift) claimed to be "wow-killers" yet it still surpasses them.

And i'm excited for the new expansion, looks promising cause they're going to scale back a lot of stuff -- like damage/hp.

and i don't doubt blizzard is working on a new MMO, they've learned a lot from WoW so hopefully it's something good.
Title: Re: World of Warcraft
Post by: RedKetchup on July 03, 2014, 09:25:04 PM
hopefully
Title: Re: World of Warcraft
Post by: mariesalias on July 23, 2014, 05:02:15 AM
Our raiding group seems to have broken up for the summer (at least), maybe longer. One of our healers was a no-show for a couple of raids because they simply forgot, so they got kicked out. Mists has taken almost all of our alt raiders and the few we have left are not geared enough now. Our main tank and one of our two main healers are expecting twins in the fall, and people keep going on vacations. At this rate, we won't get to finish Siege before the expansion comes out. :\

I am seriously bummed about this. I love raiding, our group has been together for years and I miss our bi-weekly get togethers to wipe over and over again and then occasionally down a boss.  I really miss the teamwork and camaraderie.

Sorry, I just wanted to vent a little.

Without raiding though, I have very little interest in playing right now.  I even got in on the WoD beta but it is kind of depressing to be in game right now. I'm not sure how to snap out of these doldrums. :(
Title: Re: World of Warcraft
Post by: RedKetchup on July 23, 2014, 05:26:39 AM
Oh i understand you perfectly, i feel ya. i passed through that so often.  :(  :'(

i am Lucky presently, we are still raiding on my side, we over recruited lately specially cause that. yesterday we were 32 showing up for raid, so 7 of us got to sit. Last monday we killed heroic siegecrafter blackfuse for our 2nd time and saw heroic paragons for our first time (2-3 tries). yesterday was farm night, so alot shown up ^^
Title: Re: World of Warcraft
Post by: mariesalias on July 23, 2014, 09:36:49 AM
I don't envy you heroic Blackfuse! Blackfuse is not my favorite fight, though it is not really bad unless I have to go on the conveyor belt. Paragons is a fun fight though! I'll have to watch a video to see how different it s on heroic. I hope they don't give you guys too much trouble!

Our guild is run by 7 officers and because of several unpleasant recruits back in Lich King, we can not get all the officers to agree to actively recruit new members. We're a small, casual, close-knit guild, mostly 30+, and don't like drama. Hopefully Warlords will bring some of our alt raiders back, otherwise we'll be stuck with just flex I think. :/

Thank you for commiserating with me!
Title: Re: World of Warcraft
Post by: RedKetchup on July 23, 2014, 09:48:12 AM
in heroic blackfuse i am obligated to do belts.... every belts :( i am an hunter. it s fun and not that bad. cant do any mistake. in heroic, the fire beams gaps are moving every 3 sec from right to left and to need to pass at the very good time, or take 1 million dmg (1,000,000 dmg) and die. (in normal the gaps dont move, but in heroic it move fast)

and when you do a belt, you get a debuff for 60 sec you cant go back but... since i am an hunter, i need to do every belts so ... the next time after, you need to trick it. every odd number you go by the pipe normally, and every even numbers, you need to disengage it and land on the belt without the permission ^^

it s fun though
Title: Re: World of Warcraft
Post by: mariesalias on July 23, 2014, 09:59:31 PM
I am a hunter too but there is no way I'd be able to do it with them moving!

I have always had an issue with jumping in the game so my biggest issue with those belts is getting off of them! I swear, half the time I miss the pipe. Thankfully our raid leader out the warlock and DK on the belt, I contribute to that particular fight much better with boss DPS.  :-[

Why do you not trade off with another dps for the belts?

I get motion-sickness in games often, I can't even play a FPS for more then a few minutes before I start feeling ill. Maly was a nightmare for me (the end, eh, just thinking about it makes me feel dizzy) and I had to take motion-sickness meds before every Firelands raid once we got to Alysrazor. Flying after that bird was a special torture but oddly enough, I was one of the best people in our group to do it. 
Title: Re: World of Warcraft
Post by: RedKetchup on July 24, 2014, 12:00:34 AM
i feel sorry for your sickness :( i hope you ll get better in future.

Why do you not trade off with another dps for the belts?

cause our raid leader and GM wants the classes who can do every belt be assigned to it. like hunters (disengage), Moonkin (they have their own disengage too but dunno how it called), monks (with their ghost thing they can put down) and then fill the gap with a couple of melee ( like tonight we had a ret pally doing odd groups, and a rogue doing even groups). next week i ll try to install fraps and get a video on youtube, you ll fully understand and see the job i have to do ^^. you would find it.... very interessant :)

EDIT:
by taking only 5 peoples (if possible) full time on belts instead to take 10 dps (2 grp of 5) you get more dps on the boss (if you have 2 grp of 5, you have 10 people never doing much damage, or they are on the belt, or they are running back to the other side of the Platform)
Title: Re: World of Warcraft
Post by: mariesalias on July 24, 2014, 01:23:24 PM
I would be very interested to see a video of your fight!  It sounds chaotic! :D
Title: Re: World of Warcraft
Post by: RedKetchup on July 31, 2014, 12:56:30 AM
i have installed a video capture prog on my computer today, and i tested it. i didnt used alot of high quality settings cause i was scared it takes too much pc ressources and makes too much big files (4G-10G) but tomorow i ll try it for siegecrafter. we did H Nazgrim, H Malkorok and H Spoils tonight, so i am trying to post them on youtube (which is also a first time).

I'll edit to post links. btw, i didnt put any music neither... never did that too lol. i am so noob ^^

EDIT2:
/shrug, youtube are re-encoding my video with almost no quality as i uploaded them (instead to have a 180mb video, it s 25.3mb) :( it looks so ugly, sometimes like in malkorok, we cant even see nothing at all :( anyone have an idea ?

EDIT3: deleted my old video links
Title: Re: World of Warcraft
Post by: mariesalias on July 31, 2014, 04:05:10 AM
I watched the videos; very hectic! Heroic would be beyond our groups ability. Much better with the music! It is very strange watching videos of game play without sound. Unfortunately, I don't know anything about uploading to youtube; although I watch a lot of videos,  I rarely even post there and have never uploaded anything.

I'll have to learn before too long as my son (who will be 8 in October) already does running commentary while he plays his games and wants me to record him so he can have some Let's Plays on youtube. I keep telling him he has to wait until he is a teenager but I suspect he will wear me down before then (we're a stubborn family of debaters!).

Anyway, I look forward to your video of Blackfuse! I have been purposely not watching any other guild videos of the fight. Though I do like them better when a hunter records them; I often learn from them. Thank you! :)
Title: Re: World of Warcraft
Post by: RedKetchup on July 31, 2014, 04:22:34 AM
thx.

i am still trying to figure out how i can have good and awesome looking good videos on youtube as other people do :S
i uploaded at some point a 720p version ( 1 280 x 720 ) but again, youtube downgraded it to some 640x360 as ugly as the other was with no bitrate, even worst :(

i am checking with a program called Sony Vegas 12.0 pro, it was pushed by someone who made a tutorial on youtube to how to make a 720p video on youtube and i try to learn and hopefully get what i want,
Title: Re: World of Warcraft
Post by: RedKetchup on July 31, 2014, 05:22:24 AM
i think i succeeded to upload something better ( and at least in parameters people can select 720HD )
these have the original people voices, didnt changed it to music, i ll see what they will say... ^^

H Nazgrim 25man : http://youtu.be/kMePjOfh7Z0
H Malkorok 25man : http://youtu.be/oT5KFfwcH5o
H Spoils 25man : http://youtu.be/1sGwRj1pHcs
Title: Re: World of Warcraft
Post by: mariesalias on July 31, 2014, 11:51:43 AM
Very nice! Clearer video, and I like to hear the mumble/vent/etc chat! It is always interesting to me to see how other raid groups tackle their fights, what their priorities are, how they assign tasks, and so forth. Hopefully your guild will not mind you posting up the videos!

 I wanted to ask what is the mod on the left under your raid frames? I am impressed how clean your center view is. I use a hud so my center area always has something in it but I think I need to clear up my combat text, I don't even pay attention to half of it anymore. I really like how you find ways to use Disengage during the fight. I use it so awkwardly.  Thank you for posting these up!
Title: Re: World of Warcraft
Post by: RedKetchup on July 31, 2014, 06:16:07 PM
oh it s Deadly Boss Mod that opens that window at this boss,

http://www.deadlybossmods.com/
Title: Re: World of Warcraft
Post by: RedKetchup on August 01, 2014, 07:47:52 AM
well... we didnt killed Siegecrafter last night :( wiped almost a dozen of times on it till we ran out of time. maybe next monday.

in wait i made some.... Belt Bloopers ^^

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hWztVuGrJR0
Title: Re: World of Warcraft
Post by: RedKetchup on August 07, 2014, 11:25:49 PM
This week i made Heroic Thok :)

http://youtu.be/tnS3uQoBqTo

and finally, Heroic Siegecrafter Blackfuse (Belts duty POV)

http://youtu.be/LcpK21cSi_c

or if you prefer this version with music instead of voices :) http://youtu.be/X39rywwYxHE
(personally i prefer that version, i watched it like 20 times ^^) if you love it ... give it a like :D
Title: Re: World of Warcraft
Post by: mariesalias on August 11, 2014, 10:56:06 AM
Yay! I am glad to have more videos to watch! Thank you!


I must have changed my DBM configurations around as I don't see that window.  :o  Sometimes in my efforts to streamline my display and simplify information, I do the opposite.  I'll have to check and see what I did wrong. Past time for me to clean up my UI, anyway.

We may finally be starting back up ourselves, finally. Maybe.
Title: Re: World of Warcraft
Post by: mariesalias on August 12, 2014, 10:43:19 AM
The bloopers were fun! Thanks for posting them as well.

You guys did Thok so neatly; nice teamwork! I thought your healers were especially stellar!

The Blackfuse fight looks a little insane! Both on the belts and off. I love seeing and hearing how well your raid team works together. I hope you will keep posting more videos, I really enjoy watching them. :)
Title: Re: World of Warcraft
Post by: RedKetchup on August 12, 2014, 11:52:31 AM
i am very happy you like them :)
Title: Re: World of Warcraft
Post by: mariesalias on August 12, 2014, 07:09:54 PM
One thing is very apparent to me: I completely under-utilize Disengage.
Title: Re: World of Warcraft
Post by: RedKetchup on August 13, 2014, 05:10:00 AM
i use it often and i also choose talent/glyphs : Posthaste (a sprint/dash each time you disengage) and i use glyph of disengage (increase amount of travel when you disengage)
Title: Re: World of Warcraft
Post by: DesoPL on May 22, 2015, 12:44:19 AM
I must admit.

WoW at some points really getting looklike an Asian MMO, where is more casuals than hardcore players. Damn i remember old days, when you go to Molten Core or Blackwing Lair and for hours, do an raid with 40 people! But casualization is started with TBC, because not many mention it, but 10 man and 25 raids? Fun fact is, that until WoD that's is not changed, only improved by adding hero raids like Trial of The Crusader or Icecrown Citadel.

At least, in WoD Mythic difficulty is really an challenge, i saw recently some stream where poland guild wanted to beat Blackhand on Mythic, and wipe after wipe was happend. To be honest, i not sure but for 95% next expansion will be focused on Azshara and N'Zoth.

Btw. Which WoW characters, you may like see guys in Heroes Of The Storm? Blizzard recently added Kael'Thas there.
Title: Re: World of Warcraft
Post by: RedKetchup on May 22, 2015, 03:42:23 AM
i lived through all the area from vanilla up to WoD. each one had its own fun. but today mythic is way too hard :(
i dont play HofStorm
Title: Re: World of Warcraft
Post by: DesoPL on May 22, 2015, 04:14:03 AM
The fun fact is currently about Mythic Raids, that in Highmaul Mar'Gok got an addintional encounter, which is kinda nice but not seem difficult like whole fight with Mar'Gok. Yeah Cho'Gall i mean.

Also on PTR is revealed, that Archimonde on Mythic, might do something nasty. Reallly nasty. Also it's some speculations, that Gul'Dan might ran off to Azeroth, look for Sargeras tomb. Which might be funny.
Title: Re: World of Warcraft
Post by: rejectedegg on December 10, 2016, 10:47:12 AM
I play WoW on the Eldre'Thalas realm.

I mainly mained as a Hunter but since Legion dropped my new Main is a DH.
It's a shame though that you can only have 1 DH per realm  :(
Title: Re: World of Warcraft
Post by: RedKetchup on December 21, 2016, 01:29:50 AM
I play WoW on the Eldre'Thalas realm.

I mainly mained as a Hunter but since Legion dropped my new Main is a DH.
It's a shame though that you can only have 1 DH per realm  :(

not suprised. all hunters are quitting game or rerolling something else :S
Title: Re: World of Warcraft
Post by: DesoPL on December 21, 2016, 05:17:06 AM
Finished Nightborne storyline and to be honest?

Im glad i helped Nightborne in liberating Suramar, but still is much to do.