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Offline Goblin Girl

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How much refined food from raw?
« on: May 29, 2018, 06:16:25 PM »
I know how much refined food I get from the raw input when I'm using a CC building, but I'm wondering if the modders here use the same or similar numbers?  Like, 100 beef gives how much steak?  Does Kid's Gothic butcher produce the same numbers as RK's wood butcher, and so on. 

If this information is compiled somewhere and I just haven't found it, my apologies.  :)

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Re: How much refined food from raw?
« Reply #1 on: May 29, 2018, 06:26:47 PM »
Personally always use a thumb rule for my tier 2 food production :

double the amount. take 12 beef and make 24 steaks of it. if they worth 3, they end with a worth of 2.
12 beef x 3value => 24 steaks x 2value
if it is something at 1 value, the final product will end at 1 value unless you need extra material like firewood or salt. but still your intake is 10 or 12 , the product is 20 or 24 ... always double.
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Re: How much refined food from raw?
« Reply #2 on: May 29, 2018, 06:30:34 PM »
That's easy to remember, thanks!  Do you know if Kid uses the same formula?

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Re: How much refined food from raw?
« Reply #3 on: May 29, 2018, 06:37:29 PM »
That's easy to remember, thanks!  Do you know if Kid uses the same formula?

i dont know, need to ask him :)

btw i wanted to add a note:

12 => 24
of course, it is always an education optimization. if no education will always be an intake of 12 and create 16 product.
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Re: How much refined food from raw?
« Reply #4 on: May 29, 2018, 06:40:20 PM »
Good thing a school is always one of the first buildings I build.   ;)
Hey @kid1293 can you answer my question?

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Re: How much refined food from raw?
« Reply #5 on: May 29, 2018, 09:14:32 PM »
Hi! ...and Good Morning :)

All meat is the same as RK but I saw now I have his old numbers, product is worth 4!
Hehe, a nice and happy butcher. I will make the value = 2 later.
Sausages 6 meat in - 13 sausages out and there I have kept CC value = 1
I will change that value too.

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Re: How much refined food from raw?
« Reply #6 on: May 29, 2018, 09:26:00 PM »
Hi! ...and Good Morning :)

All meat is the same as RK but I saw now I have his old numbers, product is worth 4!
Hehe, a nice and happy butcher. I will make the value = 2 later.
Sausages 6 meat in - 13 sausages out and there I have kept CC value = 1
I will change that value too.

yeah thats part of the RK Ed changes. :)
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Re: How much refined food from raw?
« Reply #7 on: May 30, 2018, 01:15:59 AM »
I'm not sure, but if you are using different mods with butchers making the same products, they can't have different "recipes" or different prices. The mod highest on your modlist decides, no matter what the modder from the lower placed mod has written in his mod. But of course, this is only if they produce the same things. I have seen it more often in bakeries, than by butcher, where the modders often name their products different.

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Re: How much refined food from raw?
« Reply #8 on: May 30, 2018, 05:21:33 AM »
I'm using mega-mod.  And it has seemed to me that, for instance, Kid's and Red's butchers have different outputs.  I've also noticed this with the various apiaries and dairies. 

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Re: How much refined food from raw?
« Reply #9 on: May 30, 2018, 06:42:25 AM »

Hi! ...and Good Morning :)



Good Morning to you as well, and thanks for responding.  :)

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Re: How much refined food from raw?
« Reply #10 on: May 30, 2018, 09:51:18 AM »
I'm using mega-mod.  And it has seemed to me that, for instance, Kid's and Red's butchers have different outputs.  I've also noticed this with the various apiaries and dairies.

The apiary variety goes back to the original by Luke himself. It was one of the first mods which he wrote to illustrate the method. Holy Doodle, did that thing crank out the honey! You could have fed a lot of Bannies just on the honey. I think Red Ketchup was the first to dial it back to reasonable numbers, but others also put out versions with more realistic but different numbers. I seem to remember somewhere in the ancient caverns that make up my mind that at one point honey counted as all the food groups. Is that right or is it just creeping senility?

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Re: How much refined food from raw?
« Reply #11 on: May 30, 2018, 10:22:25 AM »
at one point honey counted as all the food groups.
Yes.  Back when I first realized that, I created a town that lived on honey alone.  It got boring very quickly.  All of the apiaries have fixed that, but they all have slightly different outputs.  Kid's gives honey, apples, and beeswax.  There's an Urban Beekeeper (I think that's the right name) with two varieties, one gives honey, beeswax, and royal jelly (fruit & protein), and the other you can select which of those to produce.  Then RK's gives...um...I think just honey.  I haven't used it in a while, so I might be wrong about that.  Oh, and the CC one gives honey and beeswax. 

And don't get me started on the various bakeries!  Some let you make pies with fruit, flour and honey.  Others require sugar.  And I think there's one that doesn't make pie at all.

I like the variety!  It's just that sometimes I can't remember which building does what.

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Re: How much refined food from raw?
« Reply #12 on: June 05, 2018, 01:48:47 PM »
I'm not sure, but if you are using different mods with butchers making the same products, they can't have different "recipes" or different prices. The mod highest on your modlist decides, no matter what the modder from the lower placed mod has written in his mod. But of course, this is only if they produce the same things. I have seen it more often in bakeries, than by butcher, where the modders often name their products different.
Nilla, I checked this.  Bakeries made by Red & Kid have the same recipes.  Discrepancy's bakery has different recipes.  CC's has a third set of recipes.  There's some overlap.  For example, everybody's but Discrepancy's make bread from flour alone.  His requires flour & water.  The CC bakery has a lower output, and unless it has been changed, wheat going into a CC mill creates less flour than the mills from the mods here at WoB.  Oh, and I think EB's bakery has some different pie recipes than anyone else's. Megamod has standardized some things, but not all.