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Offline RedKetchup

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Re: Random questions about gameplay and game mechanics
« Reply #45 on: February 10, 2019, 03:37:34 PM »
maybe a referendum ?
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Re: workers dropping resources nowhere
« Reply #46 on: February 13, 2019, 08:46:51 PM »
I'm really pleased that I've gotten my town up to about 250 bannies! I know that's not much, and I'm cheating with the extra resources mods, but I'm doing that so I can learn the ins and outs w/o major disasters... anyway, I'm still seeing weird visual glitches that make me wonder if they are JUST visual. EX: I saw a laborer drop a keg of ale on a building site - did the keg vanish?? Did I lose a keg to that crazy worker?? And I'm getting lots of similar visuals - picking up resources, then dropping them in the middle of nowhere, and apparently that batch is lost, because no storage is augmented with that - sometimes stone or wood, sometimes crops... is this a known bug? It's happening in the vanilla version, and with several combinations of mods. I have Windows 8, in case that helps to know. It's just really frustrating to try and "manage" a town where things seem to be vanishing into air.

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Re: Random questions about gameplay and game mechanics
« Reply #47 on: February 14, 2019, 03:51:50 AM »
Im pretty sure, that these "dropped" items eventually will be picked up by someone else. Does this happen often to you? As far as Ive seen, its pretty rare. It happens but is not the "normal" Banni behaviour. (Is there a normal Banni behaviour? :-\ ;) ) More common is that they carry around something, you really need "forever" across the map, doing lots of other things before they finally decide to put it on the right place.

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Re: Random questions about gameplay and game mechanics
« Reply #48 on: February 14, 2019, 05:06:30 AM »
bannies can have many things in their inventory. the game will only show you 1 item graphically. and it is not always the most pertinent one.
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Re: Random questions about gameplay and game mechanics
« Reply #49 on: February 16, 2019, 05:56:12 PM »
It happens to me constantly!! And they are definitely dropping off, not just picking up. I've seen the picking up and that there are diverse items but only one showing. I've had my inventory open and watched all the surrounding storage units and watched that worker... the stuff just disappears. I'm starting to think it's a bug because I'm also getting erroneous amounts listed on my overview screen - the Town Hall says I have no leather, but Overview says 219! So it's getting really hard to plan for things and know what I have... that part is frustrating... and now a new glitch- the Hunter cabin is reporting Stone picked up(?) and Tavern is reporting Ale and Eggs (!?)... so the inventory function seems to be getting messed up by some mod. I'd added New Flora, and Grouse (Tanypredator) and the grouse mod caused my extra Hunter mod to stop, even when Hunter is at the top - the deer are still there in obscene numbers, but the hunters just hunt game - which destroys my leather coat and venison exporting - I dropped that in my latest game and the hunter extra came back just fine... but no matter which combo of mods or none, I'm still having the vanishing inventory issue. The "extras on overview" issue seems to be one of the mods - I didn't have it on plain vanilla game... I hope any of this makes sense - I'm such a newbie that I don't exactly know how to phrase things. But I sure am enjoying all these fun mods!! And the extra food allows me to learn the dynamics of the game w/o all the deaths, which break my heart.  :-\

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Re: Random questions about gameplay and game mechanics
« Reply #50 on: February 16, 2019, 07:09:12 PM »
you say you have leather but none in inventory. is it in a workshop being processed? these items are not counted. the inventory only counts what is in storage.just like if you take rice at the TP.it will not show in inventory if it is already being sent to a rice paddy. as for the hunter showing stone,that is normal. as bannies are reassigned by the game,they will carry items with them. often a field will say x amount of 1 crop plus the main crop of that field.tavern depends on which 1 and what it can produce.could also be related to the worker changing jobs.if you have a hunter hunting "game" be sure it is not a trapper.

    you are correct that mod orders can be touchy.there are outdated very old mods that can bring some strangeness to the game. did you check the tips pages for help organizing mod orders? many will tell you to start with a few mods and then add to it. this does help nnarrow down issues. if you add 3 mods and issues come up,you know it is in those 3 mods.when it is lots of mods,erros do get missed.

    i am curious to hear more on the vanishing inventory issue.i do hope you can locate the items and it is not a glitch.it is 1 thing if a bannie or 2 drops an item now and then. it is another if it is being done frequently by many. 

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Re: Random questions about gameplay and game mechanics
« Reply #51 on: February 17, 2019, 01:45:52 AM »
Since mine updated to include all the extra tags I've noticed a few oddities.

I normally use CC and RK's NMT mods and it now appears that some items won't go into the barns from NMT barns, beeswax was the one I first noticed it with, then pearls, I built the specialised CC barns and that solved the problem, I then tried the standard CC barn and that would also accept the items, it just seems that the update has confused things between the two mods.  Could you be having a similar problems with your disappearing items, they are getting made, but the bannies have no where they want to take them.

Also with regards to the leather problem, if the overview is what I'm thinking it is, it also includes feathers and reeds as well as leather, wool, and cloth, so it could be worth checking how much of those items you have in stock it could answer the question.

Now if I could just find a way of reminding my bannies that sheep and llamas need shearing as they seem to have forgotten about it and that orchards need to be harvested in the Autumn not the Spring and certainly not ignored all together.

I have a feeling i am going to have to wipe my mods selection clean and start downloading them all again.

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Re: Random questions about gameplay and game mechanics
« Reply #52 on: February 17, 2019, 01:47:53 AM »
I think @brads3 had explained some of your glitches, I can also add a few things.

Your townhall inventory says no leather but the overview says 219: The overview doesnt show leather, even if the sign is a hide, it shows textiles, which also includes other textiles like wool, flax, cotton.... dependent on which mods you have.

As Brad says, the reassigning of occupations makes that small amount of odd products is shown in most production sites. In addition to this Taverns has a known glitch, you can see this also in an unmodded game: they are occasionally used as barn, especially for food. This is annoying and may reduce the productivity of the tavern, because the brewer had to carry these products to a real barn, before he can start to produce. You can reduce the effects if you always have a barn with enough capacity close to every brewery.

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Re: Random questions about gameplay and game mechanics
« Reply #53 on: February 17, 2019, 04:41:57 AM »
Oenanthe, the NMT is 1.06,CC is 1.07. they use different flag limits on some items. you need the CC compatability 1.07 mod added to your order to solve this.it bridges the differences between the 2 versions.

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Re: Random questions about gameplay and game mechanics
« Reply #54 on: February 17, 2019, 08:33:46 PM »
Thanks, all, for your advice and suggestions for my odd inventory issues - Brad, I hadn't seen the mod ordering topic, so I checked that out. Thanks! It'll give me a place to start debugging. I think I have less than 10 mods, so hopefully I can figure it out.  Actually, my issue was the opposite - I DIDN"T have leather in the workshops or trade building, but inventory screen said I had 219! So it wasn't backing the number down once they were taken out and used.  I am pretty sure I checked the various places that items could be, and ruled out them being in workshops or even on the ground (I know that when they're on the ground, not yet in a stockpile or barn, they don't count in inventory.)

Nilla, I hadn't realized that leather wasn't just leather... I just discovered that today... so that's good to know. And I didn't realize about reassigning jobs... I'm doing that a lot, especially at the beginning... I had never connected it to what I was finding in the buildings.  :-\ Now I know... And I didn't know that taverns sometimes are used as barns!

It's encouraging that some people have so many mods!! So they must be mostly compatible, and that's good, because I already love so many of these new variations!

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Re: Random questions about gameplay and game mechanics
« Reply #55 on: February 18, 2019, 12:13:18 AM »
Builders only do the "Building" aspect.  Laborers clear a building site of Trees etc.  Laborers bring the required materials to the building.

Generally, Builders often have no functioning "Builder" jobs.  Anyone whose job doesn't work for any reason acts as a Laborer.

Even if you have placed like 50 buildings your Builders have no "Builder" jobs until Laborers have cleared the site and brought the materials.

Roads are ready to go.  As soon as you place a road the "Builders" have a Builder job and prioritize it.

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Re: Random questions about gameplay and game mechanics
« Reply #56 on: February 18, 2019, 12:44:00 AM »
yup it is NOT the builders' job to clear and bring material to the housing building site. thats laborers' job
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Re: Random questions about gameplay and game mechanics
« Reply #57 on: February 18, 2019, 12:33:13 PM »
Don't forget that builders will work on roads if you have laid any out while waiting for other assignments. How many times haven't any of us gotten burned by builders way on the other side of the map working away on roads we forgot we laid out in planning when we really wanted them to be RIGHT HERE, RIGHT NOW working on whatever we wanted to build?

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Re: Random questions about gameplay and game mechanics
« Reply #58 on: February 23, 2019, 12:04:05 PM »
Thanks, smurphys7 and rkelly17 - that's a point I probably don't pay as much attention to. I know that builders act like laborers when there's no enough materials at the site yet, but I hadn't considered that roads are "set to build" while the housing is waiting for materials! I'll try to curb my urge to lay out roads until there's a real lapse in building...

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Re: Random questions about gameplay and game mechanics
« Reply #59 on: February 23, 2019, 09:07:09 PM »
Well, I'm more certain than ever that I have some kind of resources/inventory glitch. :( Just now I watched as a flax crop got harvested - 109 plants... and not ONE of them them showed up at the town hall!! I took a photo to document it - that's a LOT of resources that just "disappeared"... and I'm still getting workers apparently just dropping things off in the forest, then going back to work - and meanwhile that resource is gone... I don't want to work myself into a tizzy over this, but it's almost not worth playing if my planning isn't worth anything to the outcome.  :'(

 

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