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Offline Tom Sawyer

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Re: Nilla-filling small maps
« Reply #45 on: July 03, 2019, 11:33:53 AM »
The granary has a total capacity of 4k in theory. But they actively fill it up to 2k rye and 2k wheat. It could be confusing with a %-bar but we can try.

With the mistake in wiki you were right. I was only looking in wiki pages and not in overview table.

Good luck for your girls now! :)

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Re: Nilla-filling small maps
« Reply #46 on: July 03, 2019, 03:18:07 PM »
No, our girls werenīt lucky.  :( :'( The Dutch girls were, and in the end, more skilled. A football game isnīt 60 minutes, itīs normally 90 and sometimes even 120. Our girls simply didnīt have the power to play that kind of football for so long.

Now I must cool down with a bit of calm Banished.

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Re: Nilla-filling small maps
« Reply #47 on: July 03, 2019, 04:11:18 PM »
I played the North when it first came out. I enjoyed the town I made using it, but it didn't make me want to try another.

I downloaded RKEC1.03 and started a town with that as my only mod. I have to say that I love it!  The changes that @RedKetchup has made to the basic game (refining ore at the smith, making cloth and flax at the tailor, making firewood from thatch at the chopper, lumber, etc) add so much depth that was missing. I'm only in year 7 or so, but I'm having the most fun I have had with any set of mods.
Hi @irrelevant ,

I am curious as to why you didn't want to try North again after your first town there? I giggled when I read that and was just curious as to how come.

You said you installed and played RKEC 1.03.  His current version is 1.31 why did you start with an older version? 

I have a comment about that last part you said. I just got here to WOB and Banished on June 14th of this year but you all have seemed to have been here for years. The way I read that last part of your reply is that in all this time, this is the first time you have ever tried RKEC? Again...in all this time with you and RedKetchup being friends here... this is your first time using his mod? I find that odd and funny if I am interpreting that correctly!

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Re: Nilla-filling small maps
« Reply #48 on: July 04, 2019, 03:43:34 AM »

Hi @irrelevant ,

I am curious as to why you didn't want to try North again after your first town there? I giggled when I read that and was just curious as to how come.

You said you installed and played RKEC 1.03.  His current version is 1.31 why did you start with an older version? 

I have a comment about that last part you said. I just got here to WOB and Banished on June 14th of this year but you all have seemed to have been here for years. The way I read that last part of your reply is that in all this time, this is the first time you have ever tried RKEC? Again...in all this time with you and RedKetchup being friends here... this is your first time using his mod? I find that odd and funny if I am interpreting that correctly!

Cheers!
I don't really remember, that was some time ago, August 2016. Maybe I'll try it again sometime, or at least open that town back up and take a look around. Or maybe I won't.  ;) I like what I'm working on now.
 
I was relying on my no-so-good memory, my RKEC is indeed version 1.31.

I haven't really used mods much the past couple of years, and for the past year you may recall I was mainly just letting Gopher Prairie run unattended continuously. Also, RKEC is not exactly the only mod RK has ever made. I've already used most of his other great stuff in one town or another.
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Re: Nilla-filling small maps
« Reply #49 on: July 04, 2019, 11:43:25 AM »
Yesterday nothing really went well in this game. Iīll tell you to the pictures what happened.

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This is a minor nuisance; but why must a chapel burn in each Nordic game? I have written about it before; a very old (12th century), beautiful wooden chapel, very much looking like the Nordic chapel, burned in my village some 15 years ago. Is this an evil spell to remind me of that terrible occasion?

The inventory looks perfect at this time.

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This nuisance is more severe. There are more people ill than I have places in the small hospitals. And people who get ill without a doctor, never (or at least very hard) regain any stars. I donīt think there was so many more ill at the same time than on this picture, so the harm wasnīt all too big. You canīt see any influence on the overall picture yet on this picture but later itīs noticeable but not so much that you lose a star.

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Here you can see something that isnīt a nuisance, instead rather nice: the flooded quarry. The map is full, I will not build any more houses or anything else big that will use a lot of stones. I have kept a store if thereīs another fire or I decide to change something but now food is more important than stones. The fisher doesnīt catch all too much but itīs much better than a quarry ruin.

What's not nice is the look at my food production. I do have plenty of apples. Thatīs the only good thing, all other food categories are too low and I will not be able to increase the production, at least not much. I see problems coming. No minor or major nuisance; REAL TROUBLE!  :( :-[

You may also see, that Iīve lost a ― star and a ― heart. Thatīs only partly because of the illness from the last picture. I have also built some houses at the edges of the map to work at the sites I located there. The villages are too far away for these remote farms and orchards; better farmers with 3 stars than living very far away. I also guess that their diet isnīt as good as it should be.

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Here you can see the production numbers. I do produce as much food as I need, but just barely enough and the population still grows pretty fast.

Another problem that will increase the trouble is that I donīt have enough lamp oil so I canīt run my coalmines as much as I wanted and I definitely canīt produce any gold, that I wanted to sell to buy lamp oil, wool and iron. Instead, I need to produce more firewood than I planned, which means I must cut much more trees than I planned, which means there will grow much fewer herbs and the trapper will catch much less wild animals, which means I will have much fewer herbs and fur to sell to buy lamp oil, wool and iron. A very "good" typical example of these Banished "death spirals" where one bad thing leads to the next and so on until everything collapses.

I will try to survive this but Iīm not very optimistic. I have ordered lamp oil from every possible boatman and Iīve built another small trading port. I donīt really have goods to "load it" but there happened to be a nice free spot and I want to increase the chances to get the necessary lamp oil.

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Re: Nilla-filling small maps
« Reply #50 on: July 05, 2019, 03:41:46 AM »
I didn't have much time to play yesterday but things donīt look very good.

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This is good; finally, I got some lamp oil. You can also see the content in my trading port. Since I have a lot of apples I put some in the port to barter for better food diversity. Some merchants pay a higher price than this for apples so you can even make a small profit.

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The last 20 years or so, I thought about playing this game until year 100 or until I reach a population of 1000 inhabitants. 1000 came first but itīs not good, I canīt support 1000 inhabitants this way on this map and itīs too late to make "life-saving changes".  I have simply built too many houses. I stopped the game here yesterday evening, little depressed, that this will not work but Iīm also a bit proud of myself, that I dared to take some risks. I usually play too safe. This is certainly not safe!

As I went to bed I hadnīt decided if I would stop the game here or play until the "crash" comes. I have now decided I will go on and play these few more years. Thereīs been a long time since I killed a lot of Bannis by starvation. As some of you oldies might remember; I used to do that occasionally in the early days of Banished.  :-\


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Re: Nilla-filling small maps
« Reply #51 on: July 05, 2019, 05:50:34 AM »
Glad you are going to continue, I do enjoy seeing the results of a good crash. ;)

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Re: Nilla-filling small maps
« Reply #52 on: July 05, 2019, 05:51:08 AM »
I just played a few more years, we will reach year 100 but how many will survive further than that?  We will see tonight when I will play a little more.
This is no food graph anyone wants in a Banished game.

PS: I also have some ideas about my next game.

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Re: Nilla-filling small maps
« Reply #53 on: July 05, 2019, 09:52:18 AM »
PS: I also have some ideas about my next game.
Don't forget, this one you are going to record so I can watch you play and learn from you!  :D   Don't you recall that subliminal message I sent to you via our chats? ROFL

Go on. You can do it!!!   8)
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Re: Nilla-filling small maps
« Reply #54 on: July 05, 2019, 10:33:35 AM »
Now I know how many survived "the big starvation".

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The first hunger sign was shown in august 100 but the harvest had started and it wasnīt that many houses with empty stores, so no one starved to death that year.

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Next year was not so nice. The first starvation sign was shown in May. Itīs much too long until something is harvested and since so many people were looking for food, the output from fields and orchards was very low.

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About 300 Bannis starved to death that spring and summer. I will spare you the ugly pictures. But next year wasnīt good either. The harvest during the starvation was miserable, so many houses were empty again in summer 102. I think I lost another 50 that year and this harvest isnīt good either. You can see itīs September and at some fields, the harvest hasnīt started.

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But at least the harvest was higher than what people needed. The food store is very small but it looks like everyone has filled up their homes, so no one starved that summer.

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And this year the harvest will be alright, and the population grows again.

It could maybe be possible to demolish 40 houses and make some smaller changes here and there and survive in the long term but no, Iīm done with this town.

And @MarkAnthony; NO I will not make any videos, I havenīt even an idea on how to record a game and no ambition to learn. The "cyberspace" is full of bad game videos, thereīs no need for another one. But probably I will write a little about it. Besides, my plans may have changed. @Discrepancy has made something new that had caught my interest.

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Re: Nilla-filling small maps
« Reply #55 on: July 05, 2019, 10:40:28 AM »
Nilla you sincerely did your best with this town. I've had failures after death spirals that I couldn't stop from happening.

What is it that you're going to try next? Something of discrepancy's?

As for what you say here, I agree about the bad videos and also have no intention of even trying to record or upload. I'd rather enjoy myself playing the game :)
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Re: Nilla-filling small maps
« Reply #56 on: July 05, 2019, 10:46:36 AM »
LOL   :D

I somehow thought I heard a "tone" with that "No" and an accompanying "finger-wag" directed at me.  Hehe
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« Reply #57 on: July 05, 2019, 11:49:52 AM »
You can hear what you please in my words @MarkAnthony. Thatīs the good and the bad things with words. But you can be sure on one thing; itīs never meant to diminish someone.

And yes, @moonbelf, DS just released a new industrial mod in early beta. It sounds like heīs tweaked the happiness and health systems. I canīt resist such things.

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« Reply #58 on: July 05, 2019, 12:22:40 PM »
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And yes, @moonbelf, DS just released a new industrial mod in early beta. It sounds like heīs tweaked the happiness and health systems. I canīt resist such things.

Thanks @Nilla I'll have to check that out. More happiness and health sounds great!

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Re: Nilla-filling small maps
« Reply #59 on: July 05, 2019, 12:29:56 PM »
Iīm "afraid" that itīs not more but less happiness and health in that mod but I am just about to download and arrange my new modlist. We will see.

 

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