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Title: Out of this World
Post by: Abandoned on March 03, 2021, 07:14:11 AM
@kid1293 and I are looking for thoughts on @taniu 's suggestion that the magic portal in new mod being test, Kid Fairy Garden (see blog Shamrock Glen story 66) could lead to another world.  Mining mod?  Survival mod?  Any interest?

Limitations of game itself seems to make that not possible since every map has trees & water but I am wonder if something could be done.  :-\

@kid1293 is there anyway to change river water color?
Title: Re: Out of this World
Post by: kid1293 on March 03, 2021, 07:18:48 AM
 ;D Probably possible to change the water. I haven't tried.
Title: Re: Out of this World
Post by: Abandoned on March 03, 2021, 07:28:04 AM
hmmm -  with ice colored (we have icebergs) or lava colored there could be another world  ;D  hmm  no riverboat trader  :o  must survive with no trade  :-\
Title: Re: Out of this World
Post by: taniu on March 03, 2021, 12:48:27 PM
a good start - that's how I thought about a self-sufficient village, or we can add here with a grain of salt - Portal, bannies that would not be nailed by boat but through the Portal? also trader and Normans? Can it be done this way? Maybe someone else has  idea?
Title: Re: Out of this World
Post by: Abandoned on March 03, 2021, 02:58:19 PM
Nothing can come through the portal, it is deco and is a nomad attractor.  I don't think there is any way to stop a river boat from entering the map. 
Title: Re: Out of this World
Post by: RedKetchup on March 04, 2021, 04:13:09 AM
there is no way to make a trader thing outside the trader boat. the developper made great things, but also made very shitty parts. he never responded to my demande of allowing us to make some things different (like ground merchants). he said : no.
Title: Re: Out of this World
Post by: banishedsanni on March 04, 2021, 05:27:42 AM
But there a traders like the native trader or the wagons in the choo choo mod - so u can use a portal or a summoning circle or whatever to make trading possible this way?
Title: Re: Out of this World
Post by: Abandoned on March 04, 2021, 05:44:46 AM
I remember requests to Luke before last update, it would have been nice to have been able to trade for seeds on land.

There are ways to be self-sufficient and yes, a few different on land traders that would help,  the large cave in  Kid Forge of Dwarves is made to seem as if items are being brought from an underground settlement.  Making a trader like the trading post would be huge undertaking if possible at all - hundreds of lines in the menu.

But there is no way to get rid of the river.  If water could be changed to look frozen or like lava or rock, if player builds a trading post the riverboat would still come  :o wood boat in ice or lava  :o  There would have to be a way to stop river boat from entering the map. 
Title: Re: Out of this World
Post by: RedKetchup on March 04, 2021, 06:07:47 AM
Quote from: banishedsanni on March 04, 2021, 05:27:42 AM
But there a traders like the native trader or the wagons in the choo choo mod - so u can use a portal or a summoning circle or whatever to make trading possible this way?

they are not really a trader. it is the same as taking iron and making a tool. it is just the choice we gave that made it look like a trader. take this and give that (take cabbage and give gold coins).
Title: Re: Out of this World
Post by: banishedsanni on March 04, 2021, 09:17:34 AM
Quote from: RedKetchup on March 04, 2021, 06:07:47 AM
they are not really a trader. it is the same as taking iron and making a tool. it is just the choice we gave that made it look like a trader. take this and give that (take cabbage and give gold coins).

But it does its job :D
Title: Re: Out of this World
Post by: banishedsanni on March 05, 2021, 05:18:22 AM
Is it possible to remove the water?
I could imagen a map on mars where there is no water (only via wells). If you can too change the look of the trader and make em look like .. somekind of vehicle that brings supplies from another mars station. Maybe a low flying shuttle XD or a scifi looking cargo vehicle.


Or antarktis theme: river is frozen and the trader is a dog sled or an icebreaker ship, helicopter etc
Title: Re: Out of this World
Post by: Abandoned on March 05, 2021, 05:55:26 AM
It is not possible to remove the main river and there is no way to change the appearance of the river boat.  If there was a way to stop boat from coming (if trader is built) maybe a deco piece like a rug could cover it- not sure that is possible.

We have an arctic theme with all snow, ice cave houses, icebergs on river, dog sleds, and polar bears:

Kid Ice Castle  http://worldofbanished.com/index.php?action=downloads;sa=view;down=588

and story : Ice Mountain Nature Preserve  http://worldofbanished.com/index.php?topic=3603.0

I built no trader but have a supply dock from mod, and deco boat from Kid Some Boats that looks like it can handle icy water.  Also Shipwrecks  ;D
Title: Re: Out of this World
Post by: banishedsanni on March 05, 2021, 06:51:20 AM
U maybe cant remove the river but u maybe can make the river water look transparent or like someone said like lava?
Title: Re: Out of this World
Post by: kid1293 on March 05, 2021, 07:33:10 AM
Set the boat to come after 10000 years. that should do it.
Title: Re: Out of this World
Post by: Abandoned on March 05, 2021, 10:35:06 AM
 oh, is that set as override on map?  That would solve one problem.  hmmm  :)
Title: Re: Out of this World
Post by: RedKetchup on March 05, 2021, 05:15:08 PM
Quote from: Abandoned on March 05, 2021, 05:55:26 AM
It is not possible to remove the main river and there is no way to change the appearance of the river boat.  If there was a way to stop boat from coming (if trader is built) maybe a deco piece like a rug could cover it- not sure that is possible.


wait , does the game crash if you put:

         // rivers
         int _streamCount = 0;
Title: Re: Out of this World
Post by: kid1293 on March 05, 2021, 07:42:10 PM
@RedKetchup

No, it does not crash, but that is only the small streams, not the main river.
Title: Re: Out of this World
Post by: RedKetchup on March 06, 2021, 06:06:32 AM
Quote from: kid1293 on March 05, 2021, 07:42:10 PM
@RedKetchup

No, it does not crash, but that is only the small streams, not the main river.

oh ok
Title: Re: Out of this World
Post by: taniu on March 06, 2021, 01:27:48 PM
We covered two things - we can't eliminate the merchant boat or use the Portal - it's just decoration. maybe ?ukasz will take this into account to add a land carrier? in the current project? we can design different shapes of the building and change the landscape only as much as the game allows. Sorry for the confusion - I wish I knew the mechanics of the game :( :-[. Regards