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Title: Feel so rusty IMO
Post by: RedKetchup on February 07, 2015, 11:27:25 PM
woah... since yesterday i am trying to make a little house .... for fun and ....

feel so rusted !!

everything so slow.....
searching alot what to do......
where to click ..........

and now try to check for the code so i can see what i briefly made with 3dmax....
and see what it looks like ......

thats rough !

LOL

lol and now it says : missing dll ^^ (i was just trying to find out where the .pkm ends once compiled ^^. the modtool doesnt even want to start compile hehe)
Title: Re: Feel so rusted IMO
Post by: Nilla on February 08, 2015, 03:40:54 AM
It will come back! You´re the master! :)
Title: Re: Feel so rusted IMO
Post by: RedKetchup on February 08, 2015, 06:24:56 AM
haha maybe

but it is so far !!!

:P


;D ;D


PS.: i found out the .dll problem ^^ i ve got to reinstall the directx SDK libraries and the visual C++ libraries :)
Title: Re: Feel so rusted IMO
Post by: RedKetchup on February 09, 2015, 07:03:49 AM
so .... very slowly..... trying to do some stuff as you can see in the screenshots.

trying to make a new set of housing to go in my New Medieval Town mod...
a made the most part of 1st floor, and i was starting to add the next floors...

i want to do same as Colorful Little House but by going way futher than before :) i am pretty excited with the ideas i have :)
(keep in mind, nothing stop yet, subject to alot of changes)
Title: Re: Feel so rusted IMO
Post by: paralias on February 09, 2015, 07:35:05 AM
you see? its like bicycle.once you learn it you never forget it
Title: Re: Feel so rusted IMO
Post by: assobanana76 on February 09, 2015, 08:28:29 AM
ok.. my next city really can wait u!
it seems another great mod!!
take ur time to do great things!"
Title: Re: Feel so rusted IMO
Post by: rkelly17 on February 09, 2015, 10:01:47 AM
Love the houses so far! They look like they could be a stone upgrade of the colorful houses. Multi-colored roofs?
Title: Re: Feel so rusted IMO
Post by: bubbamcgee on February 09, 2015, 01:51:58 PM
Wow Red... Looks great!  Welcome back to modding for Banished.  Missed you!
Title: Re: Feel so rusted IMO
Post by: RedKetchup on February 09, 2015, 11:51:36 PM
thanks for the replys and your interest :)

i continued a bit tonight the 2nd floor (after warcraft raid)

still not finished but mostly done the 2 nd floor at 75%
Title: Re: Feel so rusted IMO
Post by: RedKetchup on February 10, 2015, 01:07:25 AM
of course i will need to do some variations, many models but fitting all together whatever the first floor you took, whatever the 2nd floor you put on it :)

in Colorful Little House we were still always seeing the old roof of the 1st floor. here, all 1st floor roof will disappear :) once the 2nd floor will be built ontop of it. i need many different roof forms and different angles so in order to get the house totally different :)

because if you check the screenshot , in game, it fits too much together, you ll see.......


comments ???
Title: Re: Feel so rusted IMO
Post by: assobanana76 on February 10, 2015, 02:40:54 AM
I vote for the death of the roof of the first floor!
very nice!!
Title: Re: Feel so rusted IMO
Post by: Nilla on February 10, 2015, 03:30:23 AM
I like the "left over" of the first floor roofs by the colorful houses. You can use it a s a decoration in different colors, a small colorful roof over the entrance. Looks very nice if you use a more moderate color of the second floor. So please keep that. on the old houses.

This is another building and I find it good, that it also looks different (first floor roof all gone)!! The look fit very well to the other medieval buildings.

Keep on going!
Title: Re: Feel so rusted IMO
Post by: RedKetchup on February 10, 2015, 05:35:29 AM
i will surely play with the color of the stucco, i dont like it alot, maybe more white.

i will put flowers in the boxes at bottom of the windows.

i need to push the houses abit more toward the back. i want to get deliberately more space in front, and force people to get a larger road in front because the height of the houses, too close we cant see anything. i will probably add things in that space.... like ... fill with flowers ? benchs ? lamp posts ? fences ? i dunno alot of ideas.

my very first plan with these house was 3 floors (another stairs the other side, very similar looking as the one that goes to 2nd floor) but i dunno now, cause it already alot high. i dunno. i maybe need to compare the height of the 1st floor and check the 2nd floor. maybe i can get some height back.

i know i wont 'destroy' alot these houses deliberately ( making it Old and like if bannnies dont know how build things straight ), first cause i hate that, 2: cause it s very long to try to do a good job on it) but i know i ll put alot of little 'details'. to make the product really finished and complete.

and definetely, i ll do many different models rotating with 'F' key so they dont look all the same when you do full road of it.


a screenshot of what was my first ideas before i started :

(http://www.bourges-tourisme.com/content/cache/diaporama_photo/800x600/4fe1c9c0716a3_RueHotelLallemant.JPG)

(http://www.culture.allier.fr/uploads/Externe/68/4034_407_Montlucon-quartier-medieval3.jpg)
Title: Re: Feel so rusted IMO
Post by: irrelevant on February 10, 2015, 06:29:24 AM
@RedKetchup These are very nice! They remind me very much of townhouses here in Baltimore (except those mostly are 3 stories).

Like @Nilla I also like the visible portion of the roof of the Little Houses' first floor. I like to have a colorful first floor roof and a drab second floor. Just adds a nice touch of color.
Title: Re: Feel so rusted IMO
Post by: RedKetchup on February 10, 2015, 07:03:35 AM
Oh my Colorful Little House pack was so awesome !

i remember when i was doing it, people didnt liked the idea of such colors.... but with time, people learned to really LOVE it :)
they are so wonderful !

i dont intent to replace them :) i just want to do something different while keeping same technology :)
anyway all my New Medieval Town pack use it :)

people will able to use both in same time ^^


keep in mind, they arent set up in stone and arent finished (maybe 60-75%) and i still can add some little roof over windows / doors :)
Title: Re: Feel so rusted IMO
Post by: paralias on February 10, 2015, 10:00:41 AM
Will you include the creamery dairy and the gatherer (with 2e floors) in your new medieval town mod?
Title: Re: Feel so rusted IMO
Post by: rkelly17 on February 10, 2015, 12:38:11 PM
@RedKetchup, I really like the look of the multiple houses in the screenshot--look like an English village street scene. If you want to make them look more Medieval, extend the top floor a tiny bit forward. It was typical of Medieval streets to have second floors extend a bit over the street and third floors even more. Not sure why, though it did give people a bit of cover in the morning when everyone tossed their chamber pots out the window into the street. Anyone who thinks it would have been fun to live in the middle ages doesn't know their hygiene habits.
Title: Re: Feel so rusted IMO
Post by: assobanana76 on February 10, 2015, 03:19:06 PM
Quote from: rkelly17 on February 10, 2015, 12:38:11 PM
@RedKetchupAnyone who thinks it would have been fun to live in the middle ages doesn't know their hygiene habits.
;D
Title: Re: Feel so rusted IMO
Post by: RedKetchup on February 10, 2015, 09:41:27 PM
yes will be included


@rkelly17 , noted :)
Title: Re: Feel so rusted IMO
Post by: Nilla on February 11, 2015, 03:26:28 AM
If you want the house look real medieval, I think you should look at the windows. I think original they were made of many smaller squares. The large ones were to complicated/expensive to make.
Title: Re: Feel so rusted IMO
Post by: gerns on February 11, 2015, 07:13:05 AM
 ;D i can't wait.it,awesome as is all your work
Title: Re: Feel so rusted IMO
Post by: Bobbi on February 11, 2015, 03:41:40 PM
 ;D ;D ;D I am so excited! These will be lovely! And sort of what I was looking for as far houses that can be put flush to each other for a townhouse kind of feel with two or three floors. Personally prefer no roof visible on lower floors when second floor is added, but whatever you decide to do will be awesome!

Runs around giggling maniacally..... ;D ;D ;D Red is back!!!!!!!  ;)
Title: Re: Feel so rusted IMO
Post by: assobanana76 on February 12, 2015, 12:54:09 AM
some questions in any order that came to my mind .. you've already answered in part Red, but maybe things have changed ..
you told me that I will have a conflict with CC for Blacksmith .. but then also for the Bakery?
and these two red conflicts will cause the crash?
correct me if I'm wrong .. if I put in load order before CC, and then your Medieval, I will have THEIR BS and Bakery and YOUR vanilla buildings 2nd floor + your medieval houses? not your BS and Bakery .. correct?
tx
Title: Re: Feel so rusted IMO
Post by: RedKetchup on February 12, 2015, 03:12:46 AM
Quote from: assobanana76 on February 12, 2015, 12:54:09 AM
some questions in any order that came to my mind .. you've already answered in part Red, but maybe things have changed ..
you told me that I will have a conflict with CC for Blacksmith .. but then also for the Bakery?
and these two red conflicts will cause the crash?
correct me if I'm wrong .. if I put in load order before CC, and then your Medieval, I will have THEIR BS and Bakery and YOUR vanilla buildings 2nd floor + your medieval houses? not your BS and Bakery .. correct?
tx

i just downloaded the CC excellent adventure. gonna check everything:



so....

You will get both !

You will get MY blacksmith with My 2nd floor that goes on top of it, making My tools. and you will get their blacksmith with their tools and their upgrade.

You will get My bakery with My 2nd floor with My recipes, and you will get their bakery making their recipes. Both will share the flour and will share the bread.

You will get My tailor with My 2nd floor making my recipes, and you will get their tailor doing their recipes and their upgrade.

You will get My tavern with My 2nd floor making My recipes, and you will get their brewery doing their recipes.


All My buildings are on MY own personal toolbar. All their things are spread out everywhere filling all the toolbars like crazy ^^
Title: Re: Feel so rusted IMO
Post by: paralias on February 12, 2015, 03:45:28 AM
from my experience.... i use your medieval mod from the beginning with all cc mods and now with cc:ea.you should put medieval mod above cc and you can use all the buildings from the 2 mods properly...
if you put cc first and then medieval...medieval bakery won't produce the recipes.it just takes flour and stops.. all the other buildings work fine...
Title: Re: Feel so rusted IMO
Post by: assobanana76 on February 12, 2015, 03:54:23 AM
that great news !!!  :o :o ;D ;D

wow !! that great city will come out !!!
will also have the irrigation canal in WIP!

I plan just four quadrants! one dedicated to forest...
one medieval quarter, one colonial and one ancient chinese !!
I'll go crazy historians !!  ;D ;D ;D

you will see that masterpiece!
I'm so excited !!
THANKS!!

p.s. that little dig on the toolbar!
you still have a grudge!  ;D
Title: Re: Feel so rusted IMO
Post by: RedKetchup on February 12, 2015, 05:50:49 AM
Quote from: paralias on February 12, 2015, 03:45:28 AM
if you put cc first and then medieval...medieval bakery won't produce the recipes.it just takes flour and stops.. all the other buildings work fine...

oh really ?
Title: Re: Feel so rusted IMO
Post by: RedKetchup on February 12, 2015, 05:52:09 AM
Quote from: Bobbi on February 11, 2015, 03:41:40 PM

Runs around giggling maniacally..... ;D ;D ;D Red is back!!!!!!!  ;)

dont be too much excited !! hehe
working on it only 1-2 days of 2-3 hrs per, not full time like i was doing before !
Title: Re: Feel so rusted IMO
Post by: paralias on February 12, 2015, 06:57:29 AM
have you thought to create a corner house? same appearance with the ones you make already but the door will be at the corner?

Title: Re: Feel so rusted IMO
Post by: RedKetchup on February 12, 2015, 07:30:58 AM
i never thought about it, but ya , maybe i can look into at some point :)

my bakery is that kind of building, you need a corner to put it on :)
Title: Re: Feel so rusted IMO
Post by: Bobbi on February 12, 2015, 09:28:31 AM
A corner house would be reaaaaaally awesome. Great suggestion. I picture a city block with two story houses connected going around corner in an "L" shape, or even a "U" if one were created for both corners. *Piles of drool*
Title: Re: Feel so rusted IMO
Post by: Gatherer on February 12, 2015, 02:15:22 PM
^
And an eternal tree in the middle of that city block
Title: Re: Feel so rusted IMO
Post by: RedKetchup on February 12, 2015, 09:46:07 PM
friday is coming tommorow :) so i ll be able to continue working on these :) and most part of the weekend :)
Title: Re: Feel so rusted IMO
Post by: assobanana76 on February 13, 2015, 02:20:39 AM
oooohhhhhh yeahhhhhhhhh!
Title: Re: Feel so rusted IMO
Post by: Nilla on February 13, 2015, 02:39:47 AM
Quote from: RedKetchup on February 12, 2015, 09:46:07 PM
friday is coming tommorow :) so i ll be able to continue working on these :) and most part of the weekend :)
:D
Title: Re: Feel so rusted IMO
Post by: Bobbi on February 13, 2015, 03:58:21 PM
 :D :D Yay!
Title: Re: Feel so rusted IMO
Post by: RedKetchup on February 13, 2015, 06:25:31 PM
^^ i forgot the saturday raid has been replaced friday cause... valentine day !! ^^
but i ll get on it after raid and tomorrow i ll have all day :)
yay ! hehe
Title: Re: Feel so rusted IMO
Post by: Chon Waen on February 13, 2015, 10:24:12 PM
Hey Red, thanks for working on this in your spare time. As with most everything else you've modded, I have a lot of confidence its gonna be good or better.  As far as how long till we see it: "Art takes as long as it takes", don't worry about it. We will enjoy it when it gets here!
Title: Re: Feel so rusted IMO
Post by: RedKetchup on February 14, 2015, 02:00:31 AM
Thx @Chon Waen

yeah it takes time :)

1st thing i did tonight is to compare the 2 level house with the new medieval blacksmith with its residence : And ya, that was what i thought. The new houses were very much more high than other buildings. So i've took 1-2 hours to fix that. i've cut 40% of first floor and 40% of the second floor. So i got back 80% of height and with that +20% left i can now add my third floor as intented :)

the screenshot shows how high it looks now to compare with the BS + its residence. and you can imagine a 3rd floor ontop of it.

PS.: dont worry about the 'condominum / model house / serial house' aspect because i will do many model and they will all alternate as you put 1 in the ground (as for 'F' key) and will do same for 2nd floor and 3rd floor. they will all fit together whatever the model and they will look all different like in real life :)

PS.2.: i just need to fix the windows, they are now too long and not enough square. i will maybe change the roof, cut some height and softer the slop.
Title: Re: Feel so rusted IMO
Post by: RedKetchup on February 14, 2015, 02:32:44 AM
alright , i fixed the windows, and i also put 1 row of foundation's bricks deeper in the ground (i got some height back there too ^^)
Title: Re: Feel so rusted IMO
Post by: RedKetchup on February 14, 2015, 03:24:33 AM
well, as you can see i started the 3rd floor :) hehe
Title: Re: Feel so rusted IMO
Post by: RedKetchup on February 14, 2015, 04:50:08 AM
well, i really really need your thoughts on that !

How it looks like ?
Is it great ? or is it too much ?


gonna try to get an ingame screenshot :P



Edit: Added 2 ingame screenshot. What you think ?? Impressions ??
Edit2: Added another screenshot.
Title: Re: Feel so rusted IMO
Post by: irrelevant on February 14, 2015, 06:38:30 AM
Very nice @RedKetchup! Love the look of this.

It would be nice if there was some color variation between adjacent buildings, but I realize this would be difficult to manage, both from the standpoint of creating the mod, as well as from the standpoint of building them in game. The player would have to take care not to have different colors going up!

^^that is NOT a criticism!!  ;)
Title: Re: Feel so rusted IMO
Post by: RedKetchup on February 14, 2015, 06:46:54 AM
in fact, what i try to do is: having 5-6 different model for 1st floor... 2nd floor .. 3rd floor... and asap you put 1 of those, for the next one it will automatictly rotate and put the next one (exactly when you put stone house or woodhouse in game) or use 'F'and 'T' key and rotate between models.

and i want those to fit perfectly, no matter the one you have chosen for 1st floor or 2nd floor.
in colorful little house it was mostly the roof changing color, and if you wanted to match the color ... you had to rotate and choose the right color that goes with the first floor.
and in winter, we had alot of problems to know which one was meant to go there.

here what i want to do : you can choose any of the floors model and they will always go perfectly with. giving you like an infinite combinaisons that fits together very very well... and making a road block with tons of all different houses , side by side :)

like if i do 6 different first floor, 6 different middle floor, and 6 different 3rd floor (with its final roof) ... you would get 6x6x6 different house models = 216
and you arent obligated to build all 3rd floor on all of them ... you can let some house only at 2 floor to make more variants.
Title: Re: Feel so rusted IMO
Post by: Bobbi on February 14, 2015, 07:20:50 AM
These are exactly what I have been looking for!  ;D So excited! One small suggestion and one big one. (Small) Would it be possible for the windows on third floor to line up with windows on second floor? If not easy to do, don't worry about it, looks fine as is. (Big) How about those corner houses? Possibility in the future?
Happy valentine's day.  :-*
Title: Re: Feel so rusted IMO
Post by: RedKetchup on February 14, 2015, 07:36:40 AM
yes i can. keep in mind they are far from finished (maybe 50% for that model)

i have anyways to change that model alot because it appears to be very destructive for people who have some OCD. it appears the tiles are too random and the patterns are too hard to see, causing OCD problems. and also, i need to find better windows that fits better medieval age. i ll test and maybe play with the windows i ve took for library and warehouse. i also need to change the color of the stucco (more white). and find out some .... window shutters too
Title: Re: Feel so rusted IMO
Post by: Gatherer on February 14, 2015, 01:35:53 PM
I like the smiley face on the front of the second floor. But why are the smileys on the side of 2nd and 3rd floors sad?
Title: Re: Feel so rusted IMO
Post by: Gatherer on February 14, 2015, 01:39:19 PM
Quote from: irrelevant on February 14, 2015, 06:38:30 AM
Very nice @RedKetchup! Love the look of this.

It would be nice if there was some color variation between adjacent buildings, but I realize this would be difficult to manage, both from the standpoint of creating the mod, as well as from the standpoint of building them in game. The player would have to take care not to have different colors going up!

^^that is NOT a criticism!!  ;)

We can always dream...https://mlcsemper.files.wordpress.com/2013/05/world_poland_colorful_houses_022096_.jpg (https://mlcsemper.files.wordpress.com/2013/05/world_poland_colorful_houses_022096_.jpg)
Title: Re: Feel so rusted IMO
Post by: RedKetchup on February 14, 2015, 03:34:56 PM
yeah we cant do that cause you always need 1x per X tiles minimum per floor (like 1x5... 1x6 .... 1x4 ...) for the use of Overlap Ghaphic Technology ™
Title: Re: Feel so rusted IMO
Post by: RedKetchup on February 14, 2015, 11:56:24 PM
 >:(

i hate when i face a weird bug, or stupidities... or whatever grrrr

check the 1st screenshot. that how my graphic file is

and now check the 2nd screenshot. something missing in game. no idea why. in my graphic files it is there but in game it bug and doesnt show / not there. a bug like that will maybe make me lose all night to figure it out (or find a way to cross check the game ^^)
Title: Re: Feel so rusted IMO
Post by: Paeng on February 15, 2015, 03:27:49 AM
Looks like the whole foundation has moved below the ground plane... ?
Title: Re: Feel so rusted IMO
Post by: RedKetchup on February 15, 2015, 04:21:35 AM
yeah half of it :)
Title: Re: Feel so rusted IMO
Post by: RedKetchup on February 15, 2015, 04:42:37 AM
so for the moment this screenshot show how it looks so far (added some decorations)

please tell me your impressions :)

(http://worldofbanished.com/gallery/37_15_02_15_5_40_54.jpeg)
Title: Re: Feel so rusted IMO
Post by: paralias on February 15, 2015, 06:57:59 AM
every time it gets better and better...will the decorations be in the end result? i vote to be...
Title: Re: Feel so rusted IMO
Post by: rkelly17 on February 15, 2015, 07:26:43 AM
Quote from: RedKetchup on February 15, 2015, 04:42:37 AM
so for the moment this screenshot show how it looks so far (added some decorations)

please tell me your impressions :)

Fantastic! I like the look and the decorations add to it.

What are you thinking for capacity, normal two adults and three kids? If so I would build these all over.
Title: Re: Feel so rusted IMO
Post by: Bobbi on February 15, 2015, 10:23:51 AM
Love the flower boxes and the bench. And you centered the third floor windows. You are the best!!!!
Title: Re: Feel so rusted IMO
Post by: assobanana76 on February 15, 2015, 03:37:06 PM
well.. it's simply.. WOW!!!
I must wait this mod for return to play!!
WOW!!
how much are big one house.. 5x3?
how many model?
what a great job Red!!
Title: Re: Feel so rusted IMO
Post by: Chon Waen on February 15, 2015, 04:32:20 PM
This is looking awesome!  Please keep up the good work!
Title: Re: Feel so rusted IMO
Post by: RedKetchup on February 15, 2015, 04:44:15 PM
Quote from: rkelly17 on February 15, 2015, 07:26:43 AM
Quote from: RedKetchup on February 15, 2015, 04:42:37 AM
so for the moment this screenshot show how it looks so far (added some decorations)

please tell me your impressions :)

Fantastic! I like the look and the decorations add to it.

What are you thinking for capacity, normal two adults and three kids? If so I would build these all over.

2 adultes and 4 childs (6 like my colorful little house) the firewood consumption is a little bit better than stone house :

   float _temperatureForFuel = 48.0; ( both stone house and wood house they start to use fuel at 50F )
   float _fuelPerResource = 96.0; ( wood house=60, stone house = 90 )

space required : 4x6 with the road ( the wood house and the stone house have 4x5 with the road ) so 1x tile more depth
you need 1x6 to the right for 2nd floor, and 1x6 to the left for the 3rd floor. nothing will obligate you to build those 2nd and 3rd floor !

also but keep in mind you stack 3 level of houses in those same tiles, which is HUGE!
Title: Re: Feel so rusted IMO
Post by: RedKetchup on February 15, 2015, 04:55:37 PM
you all know me very well :) there is always a cost to get bonuses ^^

i wont do a 3 lvl story house in a 3x3 (and with the cost : extremly bad graphics, super ugly) ^^ i am not kind of person, i always try to do my best and push myself further ahead.


all my graphics are always superb and wonderful :)




BTW: Question. if i add some ....  " awnings?? " ("auvents" in french) in front on some models ...  wouldnt make it too much : commercial ? (like this picture)
(http://preview.turbosquid.com/Preview/2014/07/08__12_55_42/rb1.jpg9380483e-e9c6-4891-83b7-386657a22ecbOriginal.jpg)
Title: Re: Feel so rusted IMO
Post by: assobanana76 on February 16, 2015, 01:13:15 AM
mmmmhhh ...
yes .. maybe too .. commercial.. less medieval ..  ;D
Title: Re: Feel so rusted IMO
Post by: assobanana76 on February 16, 2015, 01:20:19 AM
Quote from: RedKetchup on February 15, 2015, 04:44:15 PM
space required : 4x6 with the road ( the wood house and the stone house have 4x5 with the road ) so 1x tile more depth
you need 1x6 to the right for 2nd floor, and 1x6 to the left for the 3rd floor. nothing will obligate you to build those 2nd and 3rd floor !

also but keep in mind you stack 3 level of houses in those same tiles, which is HUGE!
I'm not very strong in mathematics .. but 4x6 + (2 * 1x6) does 6x6?  :-\
the ground floor apartment is as big as a vanilla wooden house 4x4 + 1x4 street?
Title: Re: Feel so rusted IMO
Post by: RedKetchup on February 16, 2015, 04:43:50 AM
yeah but in 6x6 including road you have 3 houses and 3 family (equivalent in space of just 2)
to add a story lvl you have no choice to take 1x full row. you cant take just 1x1 tile or take tiles already allowed to the 1st floor

i know i am probably the only moddler that try to NOT nerf the game at max and giving everything free and help people to cheat ^^


but i can check about that 1 extra 1x tile depth
Title: Re: Feel so rusted IMO
Post by: assobanana76 on February 16, 2015, 05:18:20 AM
no! that's perfect !!
my next city will be composed of 12x12 blocks as that of the markets (there will be four diagonally! beautiful!)
then 6x6 is really perfect !!  ;D

a little less "color 2nd floor" 4x5 .. but I'll try to compose blocks with those! putting down it individual stalls and firewood stockpile!  ;)
Title: Re: Feel so rusted IMO
Post by: rkelly17 on February 16, 2015, 06:32:04 AM
Love the awnings! Go for it!

And as for the size, since you get three families with four kids, that is a very economical use of space.
Title: Re: Feel so rusted IMO
Post by: paralias on February 16, 2015, 07:58:42 AM
maybe you could use these awnings at the first floor if you convert it to a shop .For the houses i think with a different color, maybe like linen (matches the theme and the color of the houses) would be nice or even a wooden one
Title: Re: Feel so rusted IMO
Post by: Bobbi on February 16, 2015, 04:08:26 PM
I like the blue striped awnings, but they do look kind of "shoppy". Also not sure how medieval awnings are. I tried to look up medieval awnings, but most came up on tents. They are pretty and colorful, so if you want to use them, go for it. Call me wishy washy.
Title: Re: Feel so rusted IMO
Post by: RedKetchup on February 16, 2015, 04:36:26 PM
yeah thats what i thought, it makes 'shoppy'. make i should make some 'shopping' as 1st floor ? lol
Title: Re: Feel so rusted IMO
Post by: paralias on February 16, 2015, 04:54:10 PM
make the corner one shop.. just a thought
Title: Re: Feel so rusted IMO
Post by: RedKetchup on February 16, 2015, 04:57:16 PM
yeah
Title: Re: Feel so rusted IMO
Post by: Chon Waen on February 16, 2015, 04:57:44 PM
With 4 of these fully built in a 12x12 block, you are going to either be left with a 2x12 strip in the middle or if rotated 90 deg from each other you will have a pinwheel arraingement with a 2x2 in the center and 4 1x5 spokes
Title: Re: Feel so rusted IMO
Post by: Chon Waen on February 17, 2015, 12:19:53 AM
And as far as 1st floor shops go:
I love the idea for both shops and for small markets
I would suggest a couple limitations for better game balance.
Small markets have an inventory capacity about 1/9 that of the full market (assuming 4x4 market floorspace) 1-2 vendors.
Pub(brewery) and small tailors should have work time doubled per cycle to compensate for about half the floorspace and the fact that they only have one worker each on the full-sized version.
A small herbalist shop (apothecary) should only have 1 worker and 1/2 radius. 

Again, just my two-bits.
I leave the heavy lifting to you!
Title: Re: Feel so rusted IMO
Post by: RedKetchup on February 17, 2015, 12:30:46 AM
there are some good constructive ideas in that :)

i think for sure, for the corner model.... i will probably do some "shopping" :)



presently, since the first full model is rdy, i am scattering and break the floors into 3 graphic files (1x .fbx per floor) and doing their building process (build_001 and build_002) and their own sheet. (.rsc)
Title: Re: Feel so rusted IMO
Post by: assobanana76 on February 17, 2015, 01:16:49 AM
Quote from: Chon Waen on February 16, 2015, 04:57:44 PM
With 4 of these fully built in a 12x12 block, you are going to either be left with a 2x12 strip in the middle or if rotated 90 deg from each other you will have a pinwheel arraingement with a 2x2 in the center and 4 1x5 spokes
I do not follow your reasoning.   ???
6 + 6 = 12  ::)
means that two buildings (3 floors) 6x6 completely fill a block of 12x12.
Title: Re: Feel so rusted IMO
Post by: assobanana76 on February 17, 2015, 01:20:06 AM
the idea of the shop on the ground floor of a building is an idea that I rammed in every forum and always was told that you can not do with this modkit ..
so I decided to join the Red mod with that of Black Liquid building a 2nd floor and putting a single stall on the ground floor!
and then I noticed that behind the stand there was a strip of firewood stockpile and so it looks perfect!
Title: Re: Feel so rusted IMO
Post by: RedKetchup on February 17, 2015, 01:25:35 AM
bah you will see how it goes @assobanana76

and also i am not sure how it will fit with your way to do things, maybe the 2nd floor will look ugly alone without 1st floor beneath ^^ (which probably i wish that happends ^^ cause my 2nd floor are intended to be ontop of the 1st floor , not standing magically in middle of the air hehe or at least not used that way)


but .....
i am doing the floors seperatly now, and it makes me soooooo SMILE !! ^^ hehe
Title: Re: Feel so rusted IMO
Post by: assobanana76 on February 17, 2015, 02:06:16 AM
Now you look and tell me that is not beautiful !!  ;D ;D

(http://cloud-4.steamusercontent.com/ugc/525003267527102650/CD6901237EBC1DA5C191FE8A715FE1BF59B71539/)

(http://cloud-4.steamusercontent.com/ugc/523876825134330027/6FDF28BECE26DE7B3845E7EA9996990073F23A69/)

(http://cloud-4.steamusercontent.com/ugc/523876825119792806/92161A085BA61205441312658712E56A3D378F06/)
Title: Re: Feel so rusted IMO
Post by: RedKetchup on February 17, 2015, 02:35:50 AM
yeah thats not bad :) *wink

note that you ll be able to continue to use Colorful Little House too ! (you can use all 3 mods in same time!)
Title: Re: Feel so rusted IMO
Post by: assobanana76 on February 17, 2015, 02:43:09 AM
Quote from: RedKetchup on February 17, 2015, 02:35:50 AM
yeah thats not bad :) *wink

note that you ll be able to continue to use Colorful Little House too ! (you can use all 3 mods in same time!)
you mean CC: EA (only vanilla houses upgrade), Colorful and MedievalHouse?
yeah! great!
and in addition the Japanese houses!
all divided into blocks and neighborhoods!
great! can't wait to start "Las Vegans"!  ;D
Title: Re: Feel so rusted IMO
Post by: RedKetchup on February 17, 2015, 03:34:01 AM
drooollll  ;D

finished to seperate the floors and tested it in game  ;D ;D ;D


i am all droooollll and *jumping around* in all the house ^^  (http://android-france.fr/wp-content/uploads/2014/06/big-dancing-banana-smiley-emoticon.gif)


hehehe
Title: Re: Feel so rusted IMO
Post by: assobanana76 on February 17, 2015, 03:38:04 AM
SCREENSHOT!! SCREENSHOT!! SCREENSHOT!!  ;D
Title: Re: Feel so rusted IMO
Post by: RedKetchup on February 17, 2015, 03:51:06 AM
* * * Here the screenshots of the building process * * *

First floor :
(http://worldofbanished.com/gallery/37_17_02_15_4_41_17.jpeg)

(http://worldofbanished.com/gallery/37_17_02_15_4_41_36.jpeg)

(http://worldofbanished.com/gallery/37_17_02_15_4_41_53.jpeg)


Second floor : take note where i am placing it.
(http://worldofbanished.com/gallery/37_17_02_15_4_42_10.jpeg)

(http://worldofbanished.com/gallery/37_17_02_15_4_42_29.jpeg)

(http://worldofbanished.com/gallery/37_17_02_15_4_42_45.jpeg)

(http://worldofbanished.com/gallery/37_17_02_15_4_43_01.jpeg)


Third floor : take note where i am placing it.
(http://worldofbanished.com/gallery/37_17_02_15_4_43_18.jpeg)

(http://worldofbanished.com/gallery/37_17_02_15_4_43_33.jpeg)

(http://worldofbanished.com/gallery/37_17_02_15_4_43_48.jpeg)

(http://worldofbanished.com/gallery/37_17_02_15_4_44_04.jpeg)

Next house : you need to reserve a space for the 3rd floor of next house (2 space if the previous 2nd floor the other side hasnt been made)
(http://worldofbanished.com/gallery/37_17_02_15_4_44_20.jpeg)
Title: Re: Feel so rusted IMO
Post by: RedKetchup on February 17, 2015, 03:55:27 AM
i need to fix a little couple of things like the dark footprint on the ground .... and it will be rdy to be tested !!!!!
Title: Re: Feel so rusted IMO
Post by: assobanana76 on February 17, 2015, 04:03:26 AM
wonderful! wonderful !!  :o
the detail of the fireplace that is stretched .. fabulous !!
you're doing to take another step forward in this game !!  ;)

just last night I brought my "Test City" to self-sufficiency (food, fuel and a pile of wood, stone and iron) as to test all my ideas and mod !!
I have 14 builders who are already heating up !!  ;D ;D
Title: Re: Feel so rusted IMO
Post by: RedKetchup on February 17, 2015, 04:40:23 AM
someone want to test that ? hehe

i also applied the numbers of Chon Waen for the bakery/mills and i made the windmill a little bigger.


If you are downloading it and testing it, please let me know (a comment here or by personal messaging)

Magic Link will appear once you are logged ON on the forum !!
If you want to download it .... you need to register on our forum ! Once you have done that, the link will appear just below this green arrow :)
(http://worldofbanished.com/gallery/37_02_09_14_5_45_13.png)

If anyone has a registration problem or not receiving the confirmation : email us at worldofbanished at gmail dot com.
Title: Re: Feel so rusted IMO
Post by: assobanana76 on February 17, 2015, 04:43:16 AM
downloaded!  ;D
but until tonight I will not put on hand .. hoping that my wife does not think differently!  :'(
Title: Re: Feel so rusted IMO
Post by: assobanana76 on February 17, 2015, 05:17:55 AM
can I use it with saved game?
Title: Re: Feel so rusted IMO
Post by: RedKetchup on February 17, 2015, 05:22:45 AM
should be. keep a save of your save first, just in case.
Title: Re: Feel so rusted IMO
Post by: assobanana76 on February 17, 2015, 06:37:10 AM
put on top of mod list, have a red issue with, on memory because screenshot doesn't seem work today on steam:
buildable storage carts
slink's decoration mod (mathieuso)
road bound
tighter road
ulimited mine quarry
CC:EA

this evening I will be more precise.
Title: Re: Feel so rusted IMO
Post by: RedKetchup on February 17, 2015, 07:49:29 AM
lulwut ?

yeah try to be more precise.
about CC:EA it is normal, we share same 'honey' files , 'flour' and 'bread'. and thats ok.

but :
buildable storage carts
slink's decoration mod (mathieuso)
road bound
tighter road
ulimited mine quarry

???? i really dont see why.
even my box of flowers i named it : NMTflower1 (for NewMedievalTown flowers) to not get something wrong with just 'flower'
Title: Re: Feel so rusted IMO
Post by: RedKetchup on February 17, 2015, 02:43:02 PM
lol newmedievaltown with newmedievalhouses.zip (13518.64 kB - downloaded 131 times.)


can the guests being able to see and DL ?
Title: Re: Feel so rusted IMO
Post by: paralias on February 17, 2015, 05:02:22 PM
i test it in a save game and there was no problem at all..
then i start doing all sort of things
like a hotel or like a fortified village
Title: Re: Feel so rusted IMO
Post by: grammycat on February 17, 2015, 05:39:24 PM
I tried it with numerous mods and the only red ones were CC:EA and CC Compatible Buildings-I just put yours on top.  It definitely works with saved games as I tried it with several.  I love your houses~I just love the whole new medieval mod.  Your attention to detail is exceptional.  Thank you for sharing your talent with us players-my little Banshees are happy, happy, happy.
Title: Re: Feel so rusted IMO
Post by: RedKetchup on February 17, 2015, 09:58:08 PM
good comments :) thanks you

so you like it ?
i need to do the other models now so they can be switching and alternate :)
Title: Re: Feel so rusted IMO
Post by: Kimbolton on February 17, 2015, 11:02:50 PM
I don't post much but I have been following this thread. This is just fantastic! Thank you so much for all your hard work. The buildings you create are beautiful and add so much to the game. I hope you know how much you are appreciated.  :)   
Title: Re: Feel so rusted IMO
Post by: RedKetchup on February 17, 2015, 11:20:22 PM
thanks you @Kimbolton . very appreciated :)
Title: Re: Feel so rusted IMO
Post by: Nilla on February 18, 2015, 03:36:29 AM
I like very much that you keep your "style"very much a Red Retchp house.  :)

Thank you!
Title: Re: Feel so rusted IMO
Post by: RedKetchup on February 18, 2015, 06:35:13 AM
Thx Nilla :)
Title: Re: Feel so rusted IMO
Post by: rkelly17 on February 18, 2015, 07:47:26 AM
@RedKetchup, here are some shots from in-game use. I started a new game on medium and these shots are from the 5th and 6th years when the first students were graduating and needing houses. The first picture is the first floor finished. The second is first floor finished with second and third floors placed and paused. The third picture is the second floor finished. The fourth picture is with all three floors finished. The only glitch I noticed was in the Winter between finishing the second floor and starting the third floor while I was waiting for someone to graduate and need a house. Note the line in the middle of the roof? Depending on how I scrolled and zoomed, it could go all the way to the front of the roof or only be toward the back of the roof. It was still there in Spring, but shows more clearly in the snow. As near as I could tell it was not present on the third floor roof. I don't consider it a serious problem for using the houses, but I know you like to get your mods to your own standards.

I don't yet have enough citizens to start a second set of houses next door, so no report on how a row looks.
Title: Re: Feel so rusted IMO
Post by: paralias on February 18, 2015, 09:07:01 AM
have you consider the possibility to make all stone floors and furthermore different tops-roofs? like castles?
Title: Re: Feel so rusted IMO
Post by: RedKetchup on February 18, 2015, 02:23:50 PM
@paralias
yeah i ll do 5-6 different models for lvl 1 , lvl2 and lvl3+roof.
what i ll make exactly... i never know ^^ i let inspiration going

@rkelly17
thanks for the report and lvl roof, yeah piss me off when it does that, i ll check back before starting new model and see i can fix that... end of the week.
Title: Re: Feel so rusted IMO
Post by: Bobbi on February 18, 2015, 04:29:35 PM
So excited to try these out! Thank you so much, @RedKetchup! Screenshots look beautiful.
Title: Re: Feel so rusted IMO
Post by: irrelevant on February 18, 2015, 07:37:15 PM
Yup! Great stuff; quelle suprise!  ;) ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Feel so rusted IMO
Post by: RedKetchup on February 18, 2015, 09:21:26 PM
even if you dont build the 2-3 floor, the first floor alone are so nice !
Title: Re: Feel so rusted IMO
Post by: Paeng on February 19, 2015, 03:30:38 AM
Very good, very versatile! Looks like a 'Must-Have'  :D
I'd still love to see some "weathering" on the all-brand-new walls...  ;)


* And thanks to Paralias too, for some inspiring layout-ideas...

Title: Re: Feel so rusted IMO
Post by: assobanana76 on February 19, 2015, 04:57:27 AM
Red!
do you think that your whole mod, in the end, is compatible with a saved game?
You will share a mod for the houses (probably more compatible) and one for production buildings?

I'm so pissed off because I have not found the time to test your mod and even that of the canal !!
I hope tonight ..

I still thought one block (12x12) with this your new building that includes three houses to three different levels of construction and a garden!

as I have in mind the project of each tile of the map, but I have no time !!
Title: Re: Feel so rusted IMO
Post by: assobanana76 on February 19, 2015, 06:04:29 AM
like unsaid..
I had just 5 minutes free!
what do u think?
(http://cloud-2.steamusercontent.com/ugc/529508221223948405/39FC58165CB19D4AC94407FAFBE11B446A646FE1/)

I check and the only red issue are with Tighter Read and slink's (mathiueso) decoration.
Title: Re: Feel so rusted IMO
Post by: rkelly17 on February 19, 2015, 08:43:03 AM
@assobanana76, what a nice compound of houses! I wouldn't mind living there at all.
Title: Re: Feel so rusted IMO
Post by: RedKetchup on February 19, 2015, 04:30:32 PM
Quote from: assobanana76 on February 19, 2015, 06:04:29 AM

I check and the only red issue are with Tighter Read and slink's (mathiueso) decoration.

can you tell what inside that is conflicting ? (click on the " _ " of the mod and scroll down to the conflict lines)
Title: Re: Feel so rusted IMO
Post by: RedKetchup on February 20, 2015, 05:20:17 AM
new first floor model :)


screenshots: Floor 1 Model 2 :
Title: Re: Feel so rusted IMO
Post by: irrelevant on February 20, 2015, 05:47:35 AM
Very nice, Red!! :)
Title: Re: Feel so rusted IMO
Post by: rkelly17 on February 20, 2015, 06:34:32 AM
Quote from: RedKetchup on February 20, 2015, 05:20:17 AM
new first floor model :)

Very nice indeed!
Title: Re: Feel so rusted IMO
Post by: RedKetchup on February 20, 2015, 08:47:32 AM
thanks you :) tonight i ll do 1-2 more floor 1 :)
Title: Re: Feel so rusted IMO
Post by: Bobbi on February 20, 2015, 09:30:32 AM
Our Banniversary present just keeps getting better and better  :D
Title: Re: Feel so rusted IMO
Post by: bucklingbranch on February 20, 2015, 11:45:05 AM
@RedKetchup  these houses are absolutely beautiful! I can't wait to try them out. As always, thank you so much for all your hard work....it is very much appreciated.
Also @assobanana76 , I really like your group of houses, outstanding!
Title: Re: Feel so rusted IMO
Post by: Chon Waen on February 20, 2015, 12:27:13 PM
Hi Red, not sure if its just me but...
I'm not seeing smoke outta the chimneys of the 3 story medieval houses.

Is that portion not implemented yet?
Title: Re: Feel so rusted IMO
Post by: RedKetchup on February 20, 2015, 07:48:56 PM
not implemented yet.

1. Alot of people always have trouble with lag and always ask to be disable / or use a mod to disable those smokes.
2. i wont do any smoke for lvl 1 or 2 houses because if you build a lvl 3 on top of those, the smoke is still going on from the lvl 1 and 2 point of view.  (you cant add a feature that will disable smoke from a first lvl house if you built more story and the smoke get out of the walls.) so when i ll do it, it will only for the 3rd floor.
Title: Re: Feel so rusted IMO
Post by: Chon Waen on February 21, 2015, 12:27:02 AM
Whew. OK.
Was worried about that.

So far, the tailor+res works great, and I've been able to stuff a stupid number of houses into a 37x37 residential area plan (108) with some room left over for 8 fountains, 16 eternal trees, 16 benches, and 32 squares of stone fencing

I did notice that the blacksmith is now 1 unit longer with his new residence than before but still so worth it.
I haven't tried out the brewer, hunter, or anything to do with bakery/mills yet, but I will once my town starts importing enough grain to justify building them!

Thanks for all the hard work!
Title: Re: Feel so rusted IMO
Post by: RedKetchup on February 21, 2015, 01:12:29 AM
thanks Chon for the heads up :)

yes, all building's 2nd floor (90%) use 1 more tile width for the 2nd floor. thats part of the Overlap Graphic Technology ™ :)


UPDATE ! 3rd Model of the 1st floor ! :)

Title: Re: Feel so rusted IMO
Post by: Bobbi on February 21, 2015, 06:28:44 AM
Red, why are you starving your peasants as they build beautiful houses?
Great progress! They new first floors have not been released yet, have they?
Title: Re: Feel so rusted IMO
Post by: RedKetchup on February 21, 2015, 07:01:26 AM
i will release a new build to test once all my models for the first floor done. but on my OneDrive folder is regulary updated :)

always do a backup of your saves... always do a backup of your old beta builds ( in case non-compatibilities with saves )
i will PM you the link.
Title: Re: Feel so rusted IMO
Post by: rkelly17 on February 21, 2015, 07:32:53 AM
I like the first floor with a covered porch--nice protection from the snow.  ;) 

Holy (expletive deleted) it's been cold around here! The other day we had the coldest low ever recorded in Kitchener-Waterloo--not cold by Prairies or Nunavut standards, but way to cold for this old guy who grew up in sunny Southern California, and has to get constant Winter weather reports from family who still live in Palm Springs.  >:(  Our local school boards closed the schools yesterday because of the cold, but got all sorts of flack as wimps.
Title: Re: Feel so rusted IMO
Post by: paralias on February 21, 2015, 01:11:22 PM
will you be kind enough to send me the link as well?
Title: Re: Feel so rusted IMO
Post by: grammycat on February 21, 2015, 06:52:48 PM
Could I also get the link please?   I'm so excited about you working on the medieval town again and thank you for all your work and time.
Title: Re: Feel so rusted IMO
Post by: RedKetchup on February 21, 2015, 10:04:59 PM
done. keep in mind this is a BETA so always keep a backup of your save and keep a backup of your old version of the beta.

the footprint on the ground for that 3rd 1st floor model isnt made yet.
Title: Re: Feel so rusted IMO
Post by: RedKetchup on February 22, 2015, 06:21:52 AM
i did alot of time on this 4th model of First floor .... i ve got alot of problems... with some pieces of roof ^^

i wasnt sure at all if at the end it would be fully compatible with my modular models.... but finally it still looks great with the 2nd/3rd floor on it :)
i just need to do some adjustments and bring the front wall a bit much toward the road and have it fit perfect with the front all of upper floors.

so i will need to pass more time on it ^^

screenshots of what it looks like ... before adjustments :)
Title: Re: Feel so rusted IMO
Post by: Lowell on February 22, 2015, 10:27:48 AM
Best mod for the game yet. 700 pop and still growing and no lag steady frame rates. I love the housing upgrades for the hunter, bakery, brewer and others...brilliant. The three story structure is just awesome. Using several of your other mods like the college etc...great stuff.  8)
Title: Re: Feel so rusted IMO
Post by: assobanana76 on February 23, 2015, 01:30:01 AM
after all, I would say that you're not just not so rusty as you thought !!  :-\
if you, when you are so rusty, create these masterpieces then rusted always !!  ;D ;D

two or three stupid questions in any order ..
have you any idea how many models of houses do in total?
have you already planned new (production) buildings?
e.g. carpenter (furniture)? a tavern with rooms for singles?  ;D
Title: Re: Feel so rusted IMO
Post by: RedKetchup on February 23, 2015, 02:15:13 AM
Quote from: assobanana76 on February 23, 2015, 01:30:01 AM
after all, I would say that you're not just not so rusty as you thought !!  :-\
if you, when you are so rusty, create these masterpieces then rusted always !!  ;D ;D

two or three stupid questions in any order ..
have you any idea how many models of houses do in total?
have you already planned new (production) buildings?
e.g. carpenter (furniture)? a tavern with rooms for singles?  ;D

maybe 6 different model per floor (3 floors X 6 model = 18 models to make)
it and give ou 6x6x6 possibilities to get 1 house full unique. => 6x6x6= 216 different houses.

yeah i have some ideas :) you guys will love it.

but about tavern rooms for single.... ? i dont think the game handle that.


about masterpiece.... hmmmm...
whats about that ??





New Medieval Cathedral ??




(http://worldofbanished.com/gallery/37_23_02_15_3_14_09.jpeg)

Title: Re: Feel so rusted IMO
Post by: RedKetchup on February 23, 2015, 02:23:42 AM
2 more screenshots of it :)

Title: Re: Feel so rusted IMO
Post by: assobanana76 on February 23, 2015, 02:47:58 AM
216 houses in one building ???  :o :o
definitely a better solution of the boarding house!

6 models .. perfect for two blocks to 3 (of different heights) as posted by me! great! ;D

I am not Catholic so I struggle even to build the church vanilla but this cathedral is huge!
and even stained glass !! oh dammit !!
Title: Re: Feel so rusted IMO
Post by: RedKetchup on February 23, 2015, 02:49:39 AM
I ve born catholic but i almost never gone to church, i dont practice at all. my mother was religious.

you cant do a medieval games without a materpiece as Cathedral ! hehe
unfortunatly i am not the creator !!! but i ll be the one who included it into a MOD !!! :)

another close up :)

(http://worldofbanished.com/gallery/37_23_02_15_3_55_11.jpeg)
Title: Re: Feel so rusted IMO
Post by: RedKetchup on February 23, 2015, 02:53:57 AM
Quote from: assobanana76 on February 23, 2015, 02:47:58 AM
216 houses in one building ???  :o :o
definitely a better solution of the boarding house!

6 models .. perfect for two blocks to 3 (of different heights) as posted by me! great! ;D

6 different model for First floor.
6 different model for Second floor.
6 different model for Third floor with their own different final roof.

it does 216 possibilities ? no ? + 6x6=36 if you do only 2 story ? + 6 if you do only 1 story. ^^
Title: Re: Feel so rusted IMO
Post by: assobanana76 on February 23, 2015, 03:07:57 AM
ok! I admit..
I'm not very good at math, but ..
I was thinking of doing individual blocks with 3 houses each, one with a first floor, one with two floors and one with 3 floors! more your fence stone, some eternal tree and some decorations.
or alternatively I could do six blocks each with a single model with three different levels!
.. but then it would be ... oh damn !!
damn math !!  >:(

something like this!
http://worldofbanished.com/index.php?topic=766.msg13039#msg13039
Title: Re: Feel so rusted IMO
Post by: Gatherer on February 23, 2015, 03:31:48 AM
Question about buildings made of stone (e.g. cathedral): Is it possible to replace dirt around the building with stone road tiles that would be part of the model? It's not really pleasant to the eye seeing dirt around town hall, college, church,...
Title: Re: Feel so rusted IMO
Post by: RedKetchup on February 23, 2015, 03:40:44 AM
Quote from: Gatherer on February 23, 2015, 03:31:48 AM
Question about buildings made of stone (e.g. cathedral): Is it possible to replace dirt around the building with stone road tiles that would be part of the model? It's not really pleasant to the eye seeing dirt around town hall, college, church,...

i usually keep the dirt 'inside' the building and try to make sure it doesnt go further than the foundations. you end up with grass instead.

2 things:

the moddler can tag the tiles to be able to make a road (dirt road or stone road) and it gives the same graphic as a road. but since it is a road.... citizens will go there like if it is a road.

2nd option
the moddler can put stone tiles all around building inside his graphic file. but it will never like the same stone road texture. you cannot reproduce the same effect and it will always look different.

like i said personally i like to have the dirt only inside. i cannot reprodure the same dirt effect neither. Only Luke, the developper, has that 'brush' probably a special photoshop brush he made.


but in the cathedral pictures.... i didnt made my footprint yet... i borrow the footprint from the actual church. i ll do mine when i ll be at that to do. next time i ll pickup my 3D program i will continue the houses.
Title: Re: Feel so rusted IMO
Post by: Darkbibou on February 23, 2015, 04:46:35 AM
Happy to see that you are back to modding @RedKetchup :D

Will you consider going back to steam (and Banished Info) for your new mods since there will be no more unauthorized copies made ? (you need to have the source code of a mod to upload it to the workshop now)
Title: Re: Feel so rusted IMO
Post by: assobanana76 on February 23, 2015, 04:49:28 AM
Quote from: Darkbibou on February 23, 2015, 04:46:35 AM
Happy to see that you are back to modding @RedKetchup :D

Will you consider going back to steam (and Banished Info) for your new mods since there will be no more unauthorized copies made ? (you need to have the source code of a mod to upload it to the workshop now)
they finally removed all double unauthorized copies?
Title: Re: Feel so rusted IMO
Post by: RedKetchup on February 23, 2015, 04:52:38 AM
no they didnt.

Hi darkbibou. i thought about it at some point... and then i read some post on some of the illegal copies and .... i dunno. some are very mean.. i dont feel to put them back there :S
even some people think there is no copyright thing that exists for mods and they think they have right to do whatever they want...

i dunno maybe. till then..

world of banished has kinda ... the exclusivity :)
Title: Re: Feel so rusted IMO
Post by: Darkbibou on February 23, 2015, 05:34:47 AM
There couldn't be anymore unauthorized copies now (I never get any for my latest mods).

Concerning old mods (ie. mods published before the latest Banished version), you can ask the steam support to remove the copies through the DMCA request form if you can prove that you are the original author.

I've written a tutorial about it: http://steamcommunity.com/workshop/discussions/-1/616199347848911716/?appid=242920

However, since you have removed the original copies of your mods from the workshop and Banished Info it would be a problem for the end users if you ask for a massive removal now (without reuploading the original copy) cause savegames will not work anymore after the removal (until the end users download your original version again).

Concerning mean people, you can't do anything about it except deleting offensive comments.

On another end you shouldn't have the same problems you had before about "copyrights" since your new mods have 100% handmade content :)

Anyway, glad you are back ^^
Title: Re: Feel so rusted IMO
Post by: paralias on February 23, 2015, 07:08:13 AM
Quote from: RedKetchup on February 23, 2015, 03:40:44 AM
but in the cathedral pictures.... i didnt made my footprint yet... i borrow the footprint from the actual church. i ll do mine when i ll be at that to do. next time i ll pickup my 3D program i will continue the houses.

that means that your cathedral will have approximately the same size as a church? i would prefer a bigger one if its possible. it's a cathedral.. if we want a building for praying we have churches...here we're talking about a cathedral.. back then everyone starving to death and church bosses were building gigantic structures just to state they can do this (with the help of .... god ...of course) ;D
Title: Re: Feel so rusted IMO
Post by: RedKetchup on February 23, 2015, 07:34:27 AM
yeah :) not as big as 1st picture but alot bigger and taller than actual church. ( a bit like 3rd picture )

Actual church : 8x12

Medieval Cathedral : 10x16
i can say... in game... it look so majestic !
Title: Re: Feel so rusted IMO
Post by: Bobbi on February 23, 2015, 09:26:54 AM
I am confused. Are you saying that you did or did not create the Cathedral? Either way it is beautiful. How many citizens do you think you will make it hold?
Title: Re: Feel so rusted IMO
Post by: Vulgarian on February 23, 2015, 11:51:01 AM
Quote from: irrelevant on February 14, 2015, 06:38:30 AMIt would be nice if there was some color variation between adjacent buildings, but I realize this would be difficult to manage, both from the standpoint of creating the mod, as well as from the standpoint of building them in game. The player would have to take care not to have different colors going up!

The roof colours on the original 2 story house are a nice touch. I only learned about that mod recently, so I've been using it like crazy. (Thank-you RedKetchup!)

Your post made me think of a variation which might help the model look more realistic. Instead of using "F" to toggle through roof colours, if each "face" had slight variations in the dimensions to appear less precise, that might give the impression of aging/sagging or a builder who was not the best at making every corner square and everything level. Some might view this as "cartoonish," but I think there's beauty in the imperfections.

[update]

Now that I've read through the thread and seen the progress, the screenshots are amazing. The only thing I can think of that would possibly make it better would be to vary the location of the stairs. (eg. facing  back or on the back of the house facing one side or the other)  Not that 216 variations isn't enough. :D Wow!

If you're looking for beta testers, I would be happy to try it. Or if not, I'll just wait until you release it.
Title: Re: Feel so rusted IMO
Post by: RedKetchup on February 23, 2015, 03:35:34 PM
Quote from: Vulgarian on February 23, 2015, 11:51:01 AM

If you're looking for beta testers, I would be happy to try it. Or if not, I'll just wait until you release it.

sure it is on page 6 of this post.
http://worldofbanished.com/index.php?topic=766.msg12992#msg12992 (http://worldofbanished.com/index.php?topic=766.msg12992#msg12992)
Title: Re: Feel so rusted IMO
Post by: Chon Waen on February 23, 2015, 04:22:57 PM
I'd love to see it *EVEN BIGGER!!!*
Like 12x18 or 12x20!
Requiring an absolutely obscene amount of stone, defaults 8 workers, and still takes a year to make!
Title: Re: Feel so rusted IMO
Post by: irrelevant on February 23, 2015, 06:05:05 PM
Quote from: Chon Waen on February 23, 2015, 04:22:57 PM
I'd love to see it *EVEN BIGGER!!!*
Like 12x18 or 12x20!
Requiring an absolutely obscene amount of stone, defaults 8 workers, and still takes a year to make!

A year?! Twenty years. Fifty Years! A hundred years!! ;D
Title: Re: Feel so rusted IMO
Post by: Chon Waen on February 23, 2015, 06:16:49 PM
Considering how long it took to build the real life cathedrals, you aren't too far off, but bannies die of old age in 20 years! Plus, I have no idea of how long you can stretch out an active building process.
Title: Re: Feel so rusted IMO
Post by: irrelevant on February 23, 2015, 06:36:15 PM
Quote from: Chon Waen on February 23, 2015, 06:16:49 PM
Considering how long it took to build the real life cathedrals....
That's what I was thinking of. But you're right, Bannie's lives are shorter, so should construction times be.

Quote from: Chon Waen on February 23, 2015, 06:16:49 PM
I have no idea of how long you can stretch out an active building process.

I don't think there's any limit. It's a function of how many construction actions the building requires divided by the max number of builders allowed.
Title: Re: Feel so rusted IMO
Post by: RedKetchup on February 23, 2015, 09:24:24 PM
8 bannies for 1-2 years ?

anyone knows how much the castle mods takes to build the castle (how much building units and material like stones ) ?
Title: Re: Feel so rusted IMO
Post by: bign10 on February 23, 2015, 10:01:24 PM
Castle takes 250 logs, 600 stone, 80 iron, and 3000 build units.
Title: Re: Feel so rusted IMO
Post by: assobanana76 on February 24, 2015, 02:50:20 AM
ok! tonight I thought!
definitely better 6 blocks with 6 buildings to the 3 levels of construction!
.. but one question .. the 2nd and 3rd floors are interchangeable?
so I can choose the ground floor in six chances and then a 1st floor between six possibilities, and so also for the 3rd floor?
I think so but just to confirm ...
Title: Re: Feel so rusted IMO
Post by: RedKetchup on February 24, 2015, 03:04:55 AM
Quote from: assobanana76 on February 24, 2015, 02:50:20 AM
.. but one question .. the 2nd and 3rd floors are interchangeable?
so I can choose the ground floor in six chances and then a 1st floor between six possibilities, and so also for the 3rd floor?


you can choose the ground floor in six chances and then a 2nd floor between six possibilities, and so also for the 3rd floor?


yes to both questions.
Title: Re: Feel so rusted IMO
Post by: assobanana76 on February 24, 2015, 03:06:56 AM
Red! that great job you're doing!  :o
This multiplies the number of possible buildings exponentially!!!!!
but do not ask me what number !!  ;D
Title: Re: Feel so rusted IMO
Post by: RedKetchup on February 24, 2015, 03:09:40 AM
216 for 3 story + 36 for 2 story +6 for 1 level only.
Title: Re: Feel so rusted IMO
Post by: assobanana76 on February 24, 2015, 03:15:10 AM
258 different buildings !!
no words!  :o
Title: Re: Feel so rusted IMO
Post by: RedKetchup on February 24, 2015, 05:54:41 AM
hehe yeah thats crazy ! me too i have hard to beleive these numbers :) hehe

***************

i remade Floor 1 , Model 4.
i was really not satisfied of it, and wasnt fit well with the 2nd floor. i changed too much thing i should have not and it wasnt "imbricating' well.

so now it works perfect now, and i like it way much more :)

screenshots:
Floor 1 Model 4 simple as lonely house.
Floor 1 Model 4 with the Floor 2 Model 1 on top of it :)
Floor 1 Model 4 seen in my 3dsMax close up.
Title: Re: Feel so rusted IMO
Post by: gerns on February 24, 2015, 06:41:33 AM
fantastic job . i cant wait to get my grubby little fingers on them. your building are the best. thank you for all your time and effort,you are making a lot of people very happy, is all i can say. ;D
Title: Re: Feel so rusted IMO
Post by: Rayden on February 24, 2015, 07:01:41 AM
This is my first post, especially to praise your work, but also to give my opinion. I've been using most of your mods along with CC:EA. They all work flawlessly except for the Monastery, never been able to make any books. Also your Residence/Smithy when I choose to have 2 workers, it accepts that but only shows 1 of 2, despite it has 2 workers and the title text overrides those numbers. Your colorful little houses it's a must, but they could have been a little less color saturated (maybe one day you could have a better look at them) and your BETA 3floor houses are just perfect, and will be much better after all these extra models you're into right now.
After all said, just keep your fantastic work.  8)
Title: Re: Feel so rusted IMO
Post by: RedKetchup on February 24, 2015, 07:10:01 AM
Thanks you @gerns  and @rayden  :)



about the Residence/Smithy  there should be only 1 smithy working. i dont know why it shows 2. let me look ........

WorkDescription work
{
   int _defaultWorkers = 1;
}

there should be only one. but i think to know where is the problem : CC:EA. and probably it is the problem source for your Monastery.
Put Monastery First on your list and then
put NewMedievalTown second on your list of mods.

and then put CC:EA third :)

Let me know if it fixed your problem :)


EDIT: about names overwritting : i know i have alot of little windows to fix. i did some, but still some to be fixed :)
Title: Re: Feel so rusted IMO
Post by: Rayden on February 24, 2015, 07:35:11 AM
Thanks for your quick reply RK, I'll have a look at it tonight when I get home. :)
Title: Re: Feel so rusted IMO
Post by: Vulgarian on February 24, 2015, 08:41:35 AM
Quote from: RedKetchup on February 23, 2015, 03:35:34 PM
sure it is on page 6 of this post.
http://worldofbanished.com/index.php?topic=766.msg12992#msg12992 (http://worldofbanished.com/index.php?topic=766.msg12992#msg12992)

Thanks! I don't know how I missed that.

I've added it to my 1st Banished city (small by most standards). It's working alongside CC:EA (appears as red, but I listed it 1st as others have posted here; I think this means that your medieval buildings mod takes precedence. So far I've built 3 houses without issue and even your bakery (which allows pie baking!). It automatically shared the bakers with the ones I had from the EA bakery, which is cool and it was able to load its own ingredients (flour+honey). So far so good.

The only giitch (if you can call it that) was that it moved the baker item in the profession list. I think CC:EA sorts alphabetically, and this overrode pushed it down. But that's pretty minor.

So far so good!
Title: Re: Feel so rusted IMO
Post by: RedKetchup on February 24, 2015, 08:47:58 AM
thanks for your reply @Vulgarian

i hope you like it :)
Title: Re: Feel so rusted IMO
Post by: RedKetchup on February 24, 2015, 11:15:06 AM
i almost finished the cathedral :) i made the building process... i just need to fix the 1st step: the foundations (which i ll do tonight after warcraft raid)

and asap it is done.... you will have a new BETA build :)
( i know i promised a new build for yesterday... sorry for the delay, but the cathedral will be included with it as compensation ^^ )

and before to release it i need to decide : how much big X per X tiles and the cost material to build it. ( i already put 8 workers ).
Title: Re: Feel so rusted IMO
Post by: RedKetchup on February 24, 2015, 12:19:27 PM
i also just took the time to fix an incompatibilty with CC:EA ...
It appears the crates (the name: crate) conflict with a graphic in CC:EA named 'crate' which is making my 3D graphic 'crate' going wrong.

the fix is major et serious which will maybe mess up saves with NewMedievalTown (old version). i will provide some info on how to prevent a potential crash with old saves. (which is not even sure though that could happends)
Title: Re: Feel so rusted IMO
Post by: assobanana76 on February 24, 2015, 02:09:53 PM
mmmmhhhh the double or triple of monastery?
Title: Re: Feel so rusted IMO
Post by: Rayden on February 24, 2015, 02:38:53 PM
Quote from: RedKetchup on February 24, 2015, 07:10:01 AM
Thanks you @gerns  and @rayden  :)



about the Residence/Smithy  there should be only 1 smithy working. i dont know why it shows 2. let me look ........

WorkDescription work
{
   int _defaultWorkers = 1;
}

there should be only one. but i think to know where is the problem : CC:EA. and probably it is the problem source for your Monastery.
Put Monastery First on your list and then
put NewMedievalTown second on your list of mods.

and then put CC:EA third :)

Let me know if it fixed your problem :)


EDIT: about names overwritting : i know i have alot of little windows to fix. i did some, but still some to be fixed :)


Well, I tried like you said and the smithy problem went away. About the monastery, the culprit was the coalasmaterial mod. Funny thing, when I tried the monastery, even with a mine extracting coal, I couldn't ever see coal on my stock/barn/market available, so the monastery kept showing the icon of no available resource to make books (I had plenty of wood and leather). I load that mod and coal start showing on my resources, and the monastery never showed again the resource missing icon, but it never made books either. Odd, but I guess now everything is working properly. Maybe you could update your monastery mod description to be order to load above the CC:EA Mod.

Thanks a lot for your help :)
Title: Re: Feel so rusted IMO
Post by: RedKetchup on February 25, 2015, 12:36:18 PM
yeah we never got a more worst mod than coalasmaterial. why i do you think i whinned in triple grins thread ?
Title: Re: Feel so rusted IMO
Post by: Rayden on February 25, 2015, 01:38:07 PM
Quote from: RedKetchup on February 25, 2015, 12:36:18 PM
yeah we never got a more worst mod than coalasmaterial. why i do you think i whinned in triple grins thread ?
True, I saw that thread but the missing resource icon was gone and managed to make steel tools which  I couldn't do it before because of no coal on my resources list. I guess it all was just a misorder and a bad choice of mods. "newbies, go figger that" :))
Title: Re: Feel so rusted IMO
Post by: RedKetchup on February 25, 2015, 03:21:06 PM
Quote from: bign10 on February 23, 2015, 10:01:24 PM
Castle takes 250 logs, 600 stone, 80 iron, and 3000 build units.

so if i say : 150 logs, 800 stones, 120 irons and 4000 build units in 8 builders is OK ?
Title: Re: Feel so rusted IMO
Post by: Chon Waen on February 26, 2015, 12:30:32 AM
Sounds good to me.  Dunno how long that will take, but probably long enough I'll end up pausing it a couple times to force something else built first.
Title: Re: Feel so rusted IMO
Post by: assobanana76 on February 26, 2015, 01:23:24 AM
do you know what I was thinking?  ::)
that with your cathedral I could create a "Mont Saint Michel" flattening an island in a lake and placing it at the center!  ;D
I build a bridge for 8 manufacturers and then demolish it!
Title: Re: Feel so rusted IMO
Post by: Gatherer on February 26, 2015, 03:43:22 AM
Testing it a bit. Great mod!!!

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If only the side window on the first floor wasn't showing... :'(
Title: Re: Feel so rusted IMO
Post by: rkelly17 on February 26, 2015, 05:49:13 AM
Quote from: Darkbibou on February 23, 2015, 05:34:47 AM
There couldn't be anymore unauthorized copies now (I never get any for my latest mods).

As much as I wish that there were no mis-attributed mods on the Steam workshop, when I went there last night there were still a whole whack of mods with the wrong author given. I suppose the actual authors of those mods haven't yet asked for them to be removed, but still . . . . As a result I do not yet use the Steam workshop to download mods.
Title: Re: Feel so rusted IMO
Post by: Paeng on February 26, 2015, 06:51:31 AM
Another short run with the Medieval Houses...

click for full size
(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/5012419/Banished/silklords/slord01.jpg)

(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/5012419/Banished/silklords/slord02.jpg)

(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/5012419/Banished/silklords/slord03.jpg)


Red, I saw your explanation why there is no smoke... makes sense.
Could you add smoke to the 3rd floors though? That would save at least some of the atmosphere...  :)
Title: Re: Feel so rusted IMO
Post by: RedKetchup on February 26, 2015, 09:26:22 AM
i will about the smoke , i think i will do both available at some point :) cause i ve been asked for a no smoke version of Colorful Little House :)

by the way ... still only got 1 reply for about :

Quote from: RedKetchup on February 25, 2015, 03:21:06 PM
Quote from: bign10 on February 23, 2015, 10:01:24 PM
Castle takes 250 logs, 600 stone, 80 iron, and 3000 build units.

so if i say : 150 logs, 800 stones, 120 irons and 4000 build units in 8 builders is OK ?
Title: Re: Feel so rusted IMO
Post by: assobanana76 on February 26, 2015, 09:43:20 AM
wow!! 4000 build units??
remember me "Pillars of the Earth"!!
Title: Re: Feel so rusted IMO
Post by: Vulgarian on February 26, 2015, 10:40:41 AM
Quote from: Gatherer on February 26, 2015, 03:43:22 AM
If only the side window on the first floor wasn't showing... :'(

I think i see why that's happening. Your 1st floor is 1 row further back from the 2nd and 3rd floors. They should be flush. Notice the back of the house extends beyond the footprint of the upper floors. If you line up the front and back walls, the side window will no longer be visible.
Title: Re: Feel so rusted IMO
Post by: Nilla on February 26, 2015, 11:46:32 AM
I just checked the normal church: 50 logs, 130 stones, 30 iron, 150 working units, so why not your numbers. I like it that it takes long.
Title: Re: Feel so rusted IMO
Post by: RedKetchup on February 26, 2015, 12:01:16 PM
Quote from: Nilla on February 26, 2015, 11:46:32 AM
I just checked the normal church: 50 logs, 130 stones, 30 iron, 150 working units, so why not your numbers. I like it that it takes long.

Quote from: RedKetchup on February 26, 2015, 09:26:22 AM
i will about the smoke , i think i will do both available at some point :) cause i ve been asked for a no smoke version of Colorful Little House :)

by the way ... still only got 1 reply for about :

Quote from: RedKetchup on February 25, 2015, 03:21:06 PM
Quote from: bign10 on February 23, 2015, 10:01:24 PM
Castle takes 250 logs, 600 stone, 80 iron, and 3000 build units.

so if i say : 150 logs, 800 stones, 120 irons and 4000 build units in 8 builders is OK ?

ok i will go for : 150 loges, 800 stones, 100 irons and 3200 build units. 8 builders. 10x16 for the moment (and please let your comments once tested it)
just need to fix the foundations build01 part and i will do a new thread with the launch of BETA 0.4 :)
Title: Re: Feel so rusted IMO
Post by: paralias on February 26, 2015, 12:08:38 PM
we are waiting anxiously

why dont you keep those numbers?
150 logs, 800 stones, 120 irons and 4000 build units in 8 builders
Title: Re: Feel so rusted IMO
Post by: Chon Waen on February 26, 2015, 01:59:16 PM
Since I like to rate building size by its "in the dirt" portion, and not it's access blocks, in my mind, a chapel uses 88 squares of real estate.  Your cathedral as is will use up about twice the real estate and be about 1 1/2 times as tall.  This is only 3x bigger at a cost of about 5-6 times the material.
This is why I've been plugging for 12x20 or so. 3x the real estate and about 2x the height is 6x the size for about 5-6x the materials. I WANT that building to consume that much material, but I also want that building to fully justify the expense!

I love the idea of huge constuction times. Cathedrals, like many other great works (the pyramids, hoover dam, etc) literally took a very long time to construct.
Title: Re: Feel so rusted IMO
Post by: Gatherer on February 26, 2015, 02:32:22 PM
Quote from: Vulgarian on February 26, 2015, 10:40:41 AM
Quote from: Gatherer on February 26, 2015, 03:43:22 AM
If only the side window on the first floor wasn't showing... :'(

I think i see why that's happening. Your 1st floor is 1 row further back from the 2nd and 3rd floors. They should be flush. Notice the back of the house extends beyond the footprint of the upper floors. If you line up the front and back walls, the side window will no longer be visible.

But I did that on purpose.

Title: Re: Feel so rusted IMO
Post by: paralias on February 26, 2015, 03:04:38 PM
@RedKetchup  i want to ask you if it is ok that i am spreading your awesomeness as a creator and by your awesome mod?
Title: Re: Feel so rusted IMO
Post by: RedKetchup on February 26, 2015, 03:17:09 PM
sure hehe @paralias :)

ok then i ll go back to 150 logs, 800 stones, 120 irons and 4000 build units in 8 builders ^^
i will let the 10x16 for the moment and tell me how looks like. you will see it is already huge :)

but i considare this Cathedral... as the 1st Wonder in the game. maybe more Wonders to come later :)
Title: Re: Feel so rusted IMO
Post by: WorldofBanished on February 26, 2015, 03:38:18 PM
Must say, I love the dimensions you bring to the game.
To have the tailor/baker/blacksmith living where they work is stupendous!
To be able to add a house upon a house = genius.
I hope you can continue in this vein with the forester, gather, fisher etc.  ;D

Thanks for all you do. It has added much to 'my' game 8)
Title: Re: Feel so rusted IMO
Post by: Chon Waen on February 26, 2015, 05:15:53 PM
Sounds good to me, lets get it, and THEN critique...

If it needs tweaks afterwards, so be it, that's what feedback is for!!!
If we didn't use a method such as this, we would probably still be using punchcards to enter data into computers
Title: Re: Feel so rusted IMO
Post by: RedKetchup on February 26, 2015, 05:27:32 PM
Quote from: Chon Waen on February 26, 2015, 05:15:53 PM
Sounds good to me, lets get it, and THEN critique...

If it needs tweaks afterwards, so be it, that's what feedback is for!!!
If we didn't use a method such as this, we would probably still be using punchcards to enter data into computers

hehe :)

finally just before posted it .... New Dimensions ! 12x20 !! More Majestic and Wonderful than before !! hehe
I started a new thread !

and the download is now AVAILABLE !! BETA: New Medieval Town : v0.4 with Cathedral Wonder
http://worldofbanished.com/index.php?topic=786.0 (http://worldofbanished.com/index.php?topic=786.0)
Title: Re: Feel so rusted IMO
Post by: RedKetchup on February 26, 2015, 06:02:48 PM
hehe... if i successfully finish this mod one day ..... and i have enough willing to continue .... my next pack after will be themed :)

a Roman Empire themed Mod ??
Egyptian with Pyramid Wonder ??
Aztec ?? Grece ?? Japanese ? so much fun !
Title: Re: Feel so rusted IMO
Post by: IttyTsu on February 26, 2015, 10:05:30 PM
First of all, I am in love with this mod.  Someone mentioned it over at CC and showed a screenshot and I knew it was a MUST HAVE.  I know it is a beta and all, so I figure might as well nip any issues in the bud now.  I'm getting people stuck standing outside the houses and the house that is part of the hunting shack. (i love the hunting shack and house.  But yeah. You click on them standing at the door. It says they are working.  But they just stand there.  I had a couple stand there for a year.  It is only occuring with the houses for this mod. Ideas?
Title: Re: Feel so rusted IMO
Post by: RedKetchup on February 27, 2015, 04:50:44 AM
i never noticed that, only happends a particular event depending where were your hunters when the residence triggered its completion ?

what was there production statistics for the year ? did they produced ?


anyone have some more tests on it ?
Title: Re: Feel so rusted IMO
Post by: rkelly17 on February 27, 2015, 08:10:52 AM
Quote from: RedKetchup on February 26, 2015, 06:02:48 PM
hehe... if i successfully finish this mod one day ..... and i have enough willing to continue .... my next pack after will be themed :)

a Roman Empire themed Mod ??
Egyptian with Pyramid Wonder ??
Aztec ?? Grece ?? Japanese ? so much fun !

I'd want something that didn't look weird with the landscape. Egyptian pyramids in the middle of the forest might be a bit much--unless, of course, you came up with an entertaining back story about how ancient Egyptians actually discovered North America.  ;D

Maybe Viking? Your cathedral could become a stave church (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stave_church#mediaviewer/File:Stavechurch-heddal.jpg).

Title: Re: Feel so rusted IMO
Post by: RedKetchup on February 27, 2015, 08:12:53 AM
of course egyptians would live in the sands ^^
Title: Re: Feel so rusted IMO
Post by: Vulgarian on February 27, 2015, 08:26:17 AM
Quote from: IttyTsu on February 26, 2015, 10:05:30 PM
I'm getting people stuck standing outside the houses and the house that is part of the hunting shack. (i love the hunting shack and house.  But yeah. You click on them standing at the door. It says they are working.  But they just stand there.  I had a couple stand there for a year.  It is only occuring with the houses for this mod. Ideas?

I haven't noticed this but will have a closer look tonight. Is CC above or below Medieval Houses in your MOD list? I think most of us are loading Medieval Houses above CC, so it overrides CC where there is a conflict.
Title: Re: Feel so rusted IMO
Post by: Nilla on February 27, 2015, 11:24:43 AM
Quote from: rkelly17 on February 27, 2015, 08:10:52 AM

I'd want something that didn't look weird with the landscape. Egyptian pyramids in the middle of the forest might be a bit much--unless, of course, you came up with an entertaining back story about how ancient Egyptians actually discovered North America.  ;D

Maybe Viking? Your cathedral could become a stave church (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stave_church#mediaviewer/File:Stavechurch-heddal.jpg).

Great idea, actually the vikings did discover North America, but at that time the stavechurches wasn't invented, actually they didn't use any churches at all. As we were Christians up here in the north, the viking period was over.

And maybe the Egyptians did discover America. Do anyone remember the experiments of the viking descendant Heyerdahl and his Ra-boat, built from Nile straw. Might have been in the 1960-ies.  He crossed the Atlantic in an ancient boat-type.
Title: Re: Feel so rusted IMO
Post by: Admin on February 27, 2015, 12:09:43 PM
The RA Expeditions

http://community.plu.edu/~ryandp/RAX.html

Title: Re: Feel so rusted IMO
Post by: Chon Waen on February 27, 2015, 12:14:49 PM
I would say perhaps to combine 2 of those into Greco-Roman. Very similar climates and buildings overall. Not surprising really since Rome tended to integrate neighboring cultures into their own.

@The Big Chihuahua Interesting Read! Thanks!
Title: Re: Feel so rusted IMO
Post by: irrelevant on February 27, 2015, 12:45:39 PM
I remember that. Heyerdahl also did one in the pacific on a raft named Kon-Tiki.
Title: Re: Feel so rusted IMO
Post by: rkelly17 on February 28, 2015, 07:39:48 AM
Quote from: irrelevant on February 27, 2015, 12:45:39 PM
I remember that. Heyerdahl also did one in the pacific on a raft named Kon-Tiki.
Quote from: The Big Chihuahua on February 27, 2015, 12:09:43 PM
The RA Expeditions
http://community.plu.edu/~ryandp/RAX.html

Good ol' Thor. He did have a thing for sailing little boats a long way. Where did he end up with Ra? Didn't he do one other? My memory is clouded on the issue.

A colleague and I once came up with "The Mu Shu Burrito Theory" in which we used (among other things) Heyerdahl's voyages to show how mu shu pork is actually a chile verde burrito. It was rather complicated.  ;D

If one wants pyramids in Banished you could do a back story about a group of banished Maya moving North. That would make for some very cool cities.
Title: Re: Feel so rusty IMO
Post by: Vulgarian on February 28, 2015, 11:46:22 AM
I did encounter one small issue with the new Medieval Houses. I tried to get creative and build the 2nd and 3rd stories with the stairs facing backwards. However, the 1st and 2nd stories must not be perfectly centered or the "front" face of the 2nd must not extend as far out from center as the "back" wall from the 1st floor because the 1st floor partially obscures the windows on the 2nd. I tried to take screenshots, but they didn't get saved. (I'll try again.)

I'm using the latest newmedievalhosues package posted in the cathedral thread.
Title: Re: Feel so rusty IMO
Post by: RedKetchup on February 28, 2015, 11:58:03 AM
it is normal. the houses are pushed in the back.

it is really not intended to be used other way than how i designed it !
Title: Re: Feel so rusty IMO
Post by: Vulgarian on February 28, 2015, 12:21:53 PM
Understood. I can live with it as it is. Just thought I'd bring to your attention in case it was a simple tweak.

Here are the screens just fyi. (I sorted out my screenshot problem.)

Title: Re: Feel so rusty IMO
Post by: assobanana76 on March 02, 2015, 12:42:58 AM
here errors like you ask me:

(http://cloud-2.steamusercontent.com/ugc/529508774517954028/6BE5BD08F52E0CD0BEE63974D339A81F8EFCFFB1/)

(http://cloud-4.steamusercontent.com/ugc/529508774517955806/7CA0405E989F4727EF55CD013FEFDA0A8D4B3617/)

(http://cloud-4.steamusercontent.com/ugc/529508774517957946/856740541809873EF803F86F918A7A1F64A83984/)

(http://cloud-4.steamusercontent.com/ugc/529508774517958704/4767ED434FB89AEFC89ED80C4A23A894FFFBEAAF/)

(http://cloud-4.steamusercontent.com/ugc/529508774517959717/0F0CC24816EDCE7ACE4038DF2CA4A34520EF20E0/)

(http://cloud-4.steamusercontent.com/ugc/529508774517960658/509718F75FF8A49CADAFAA82C2F9E6BD3DD467B6/)
Title: Re: Feel so rusty IMO
Post by: RedKetchup on March 02, 2015, 02:06:44 AM
Thanks you Asso

so.....
Flour files
Bread Files
Honey files

That's normal. if we dont have the same files.. that means none of us (or both) cannot make flour/bread and cannot use honey in our cakes :)
so OK , and even Perfect.

now :
I need to fix my Mills, specially my water mill. they took all my files of my watermill. so i will rename mine, my files.

water ? i need to fix that. that s the name of the water that is inside the barrel in my bakery. i need to rename.

what else ? Baker / Miller :
That's normal. if we dont have the same names.. that means we cannot share the same pool of workers working in those professions
so OK , and even Perfect.

crate texture.:you dont have the lastest version of the BETA mod... .  it is already fixed in last build available.
Title: Re: Feel so rusty IMO
Post by: assobanana76 on March 02, 2015, 02:18:23 AM
ok. yes indeed I'm still using the first version ..
Today I download the new!
thanks