World of Banished

Hi all,

Some may know that I am in the progress of designing small areas, outposts using a bunch of small & tiny mods (Thank you awesome dev team!! (@kid1293 & @Discrepancy & @Necora etc, etc ... ), but the one thing I find myself now missing is a small milking barn/shed/churner.

I use @RedKetchup Red Barn (love it!), and I use a couple of other creamery mods, but I'm looking for a small fit. 


2 x 2; 2 x 4; 4 x 4; and at a large push, 2 x 6 would be the max I am interested in.


Essentially it would produce the same as the creamery & barns:  cream, cheese, yoghurt (flavoured wth berries, fruit etc), maybe up to 3 dairypeople.
I use the Animal Pens from MM, which is 3x3, so that fits in my plans.
My outposts are a small community that adapt to their area, building hobby farms is one of the things they love to do.  :) 

I can source/supply/sponsor a model, I have accounts at both TurboSquid & GTrader.  I have asked previously, and there may be something in the works, but it never hurts to ask again :)


Thanks all.

(update)
Thoughts:  Now if only Luke had allowed mixed pens, that would be awesome, alas he did not!!  (Actually, thinking about it now, Red & Kid got 2 of their new buildings to randomly produce items, could the same be applied to an animal pen?

Design an animal pen model, like the above mentioned "Animal Pens", but show a collection of different animals in there, and they produce random goods from all different livestock.  The design would be static, and use say, domesticated animals to start, you wouldn't work it like a pasture, but just how the Animal Pens are. 
Name it something like a "hobby farm stock" or "Petting Pen", etc...

Ok, I think that's it :D  Haha.

Cheers all.

@QueryEverything I'd like a small creamery type mod also, one that adds the black and white cows but not linked to CC.  Being smaller than a creamery it should produce less, maybe only cheese and connected to a family farm probably only 1 worker in a small shed or cheese cellar, a lean-to like @RedKetchup's County Little House.  Color variant for that house is on his to-do list so maybe a possibility. Cows go in the pasture.  Family farms around here have many small sheds.  Health safety laws protect from food being processed in with the animals.  I don't think I would want something called hobby farm or petty zoo.  Banished times were about survival and feeding their children, so were family farms even way back when I was a child.  "Pets" kept rodents under control and foxes from the hen house and guarded the sheep.

edit:  re: animal pens. did you see thread by Jesta030 under Mod Garage/Tips and Help/Help a Newbie?

@Abandoned thank you for your feedback :)
I grew up in country Australia, we have "Farms" & "Hobby Farms".  It comes down to size, the housing, the animals kept and how many people, workers etc.  You will find where I grew up a Hobby Farm wasn't just "play time", it was hard work.  Working off the land, 3-5 member families putting in all of their effort to produce the finest quality merchandise for themselves and their families, the locals and in some case, State wide through markets and stalls.

My vision for the mod isn't unrealistic when you think about how many small families would work keeping their animals safe and making produce from & by them.  A lot of times with the parents, with the children when they weren't in school busting their days keeping people fed & watered.  Even now, in Outback Australia, our Farmers are running huge amount of livestock, with just a few of their family members because times are ridiculously tough.

I go to Produce Markets now, and there are husband and wife teams with 2 alone, producing hundreds of items per month for sale, whilst technology is definitely an advantage, so too their life experience, and their education. 

And yes, for most farmers, Pets have names, Product does not.  :) :)

Seems like we really do live a world away :D :D :D

Not so far, grew most of our own fruits and vegetable for many years, not enough land for farm animals.  Most people don't even grow a tomato plant though or cook much at home.  Fast food.

there aren't any milk cows in black and white??? i have CC,but thought there was a milk cow mod that changed the colors. i also have a dairy,similar to the creamery but i get random milk products from it:cheese,cream,butter. all at the same time without changing the process. i like using this more than the creamery,especially on a small homestead.i actually thought RED's barn was going to have a section along those lines.
   i agree that there seems to be a way to make a pasture with more than 1 animal. how bout a homestead farm set. a barn with a pasture and a chicken coop.add some decorations,a small garden patch,an apple tree,set up for a family to work in. feed the animals with grain and get beef,chicken,eggs,milk,a small supply of mixed veggys,some apples,etc all at the same time but randomly. you might get eggs,feathers,carrots-beets-pumpkins,some milk 1 yr . and a different yr u could get squash,apples,beef,leather,etc. say 5 different products per yr. and it could go farther in that the banis could process some food themself at the homestead so you could get tomato soups,cheese,butter,etc.  could do a f variant and have 1 set chickens,milk cows,pigs and another chickens,beef,sheep,etc. even if its 10x10 space or more.
   there is a mod in development to make a small cider press and maple sap boiler as well.  he has a few ideas on expnading the foret sets.

@Abandoned where I'm moving too the land is wide open for all sorts of agriculture, it's beautiful.  I grew up in bushland, my Mum grew up in Country, and Dad, well, he loves anywhere he can get his feet up for 5 mins, whether it be inland, capeside or river.  I live on 5acres currently, I'd love to put in a lush fruit & veg plot, but the terrain is extremely unstable, we are on the side of a hill, and the land is clay based.  Raised garden beds have been suggested, but I don't have the strength to tend to them all.  I spend my outside time in a wheelchair and I just couldn't justify paving a road for me down the hill, afterall, how would I get back up.  :) 

Anyway ..  back to the mod idea, haha!

@brads3 I've been following @Necora work religiously and am often over at BL, not sure if he will produce a 2x2 or 2x4 dairy for me, I did ask for one the other week as an idea to his latest expansion work, and to tack on to the barn, but I'd also like to see an independent one, if possible.

The idea would be in 2 parts:  1) Dairy Farm, with the pasture that produces random goods, like the ones that @kid1293 & @RedKetchup have just produced, but all farming products.  and 2) the Dairy, where you get to churn the milk exactly like the creamery into different items of your choosing.  In my case I have nearly 2,000 berries, so my dairy creameries are churning out fruit yoghurt. 

I like your idea, I wonder if it's possible to produce it with the following things in mind:  The animals native to the game (plus expansions), deer, chickens, cattle, sheep, (ducks etc by extension, so the file would have to read what animals are "available", the duck hunter (hunting blind), etc) and 2, the season.  So, spring lamb, winter veg etc....
It all comes down to Luke's base code, that's what may halt this.
I'm happy to invest if a model is needed, to save some time, I just don't code, which is where my ideas come to a screeching halt!!
:)

I'd love to add goats to the game, but that might be beyond my limited modeling skills. Perhaps I'll give it a go one day.

The forest set was initially done to supply the resources for the pine productions needed in the maritime industry. Once I had made a couple, I figured I may as well do a whole set for it so it ballooned pretty substantially. Glad I did it though, makes it more complete.

I do like the idea of more 'backyard' production, that is what I was going for with the maple boiler and cider press, small little homestead productions. I will expand that area when I get more of the fishing sets finished, I also want to expand the crystal cliffs part as well so perhaps they will be together.

It is on my list! A goat pen, chicken hutch, garden, greenhouse, this list is getting long haha. I also want to add a cellar that is built into the hill side that will mature cheese, wine, whiskey etc.

@Necora I love your passion :D
Please let me know if you need me to beta whilst you develop, lol.  *hint* :D


I've sent you a PM on BL, hope you get a laugh!!  Thanks for stopping by my post here. :)

the only thing with any of your ideas QUERY  to my knowledge is the modders can't mod via the calendar. it will do the same things all yr not based on seasons.
NECORA,wc to WOB. the hardest part of any animal to design is animation from what i hear.that seems to be 1 of the reasons we don't have a fur trapper.yes u have been busy with the fish mod and went several directions from it. it has been a project for u.i would like to see the fishing expanded to have a catfish pond,bass lake,etc. the lakes we have now,are tiny and more like a park setting than the forest.
   the greenhouse would b awesome.the CC version produces too little. and looks odd with the white glass.RED's gh is nicer looking but brings seedlings to trade not veggy's or fruits. his i find too big. need something in the middle of the 2 on size that takes bonemeal and gives veggy and fruits. the problem i was reading the other day is there seems be no way to make glass as a building texture.

@brads3 very right about the seasons, I saw a post though that @ShockPuppet has managed to add a timing function, but in a lateral way, I'll leave that up to him if he would like to explain it, but it's on the BL forum :)
And yes, re the animation, even hubby won't do animation for his pilots he designs, he outsources all of that for our work we do (not Banished :D ), he's been a 3D modeller for over a decade, nearly 2, and he won't touch it. haha.

Yes!  A smaller glasshouse etc!!  Sweetbeats!! 

put him to work modding. we have many ideas . :)

@brads3 if only ...  nope, unless we want to do a SciFi Map (Bannies discover the lost city of XYZ) and there are planes, it's not something he's interested in.  I've asked, and in his stead he gave me the logins for our business accounts and 3D model sites, lol, told me I could have what I wanted.  He's converted some files I chose to be usable ingame, but I still need them coded, and imported into the game, which is something I can't do.
I don't have the head for coding, or I would.  :(  Sadness ...  Beta test, do reports, admin, that's my bat & ball :D
When he has some down time I'll get him to look at a mod code base and see if it's something he can do. 

yeah the animation part of the game is really poor
i wish i can learn to make animated animals and i would add them all !!!

part of the problems are :
1. extremly hard, and long to do
2. extremly hard to learn to do
3. we got a developper who had no idea what he was doing...
... but manage to do it in a way he finally learned BUT....
.... is not the way all the tutos on internet and youtube tells you....
... so it doesnt help you alot
4. since his animations doesnt work like others, all the animated you can buy on model sites...
... is a pure waste of money cause they are useless, not made in same way.

i wished to have someone who had make me a tuto but i didnt succeeded to convince to make me learn.

@QueryEverything what sort of things do you have than you want put in game? I'd be happy to take a look at them and code them up for you, depending on what they are.

@brads3 regarding black and white milk cows and small cheese shed, without CC the only way to get the black and white cows is to use one of Red's creameries or the North mod (which use different b&w cows).  If a small shed was built which required milk, you would have to have one of those mods activated in order to get the cow from the livestock merchant or wait and trade for milk, if the small shed mod includes say Red's cow then only the shed mod needs to be activated. Not that big of problem if requirement stated.

I prefer to have less mods activated at the same time for several reasons, especially big mods.  1st) I lost one video card due to overheating and could not get a replacement card as good as what I had, thus can't run Banished on my desktop. 2nd) limiting limited playtime because of heat.  3) lag time no fun to play. 4) spending game time searching through mega icons for certain item to build, no fun. 5) waiting years for merchants to bring multiple necessary items to construct or use buildings does not a stand-alone mod make. No fun.  But that's just me (without the latest gaming machine).

I was happy to read that @Necora 's maritime mod does not require CC but hopefully won't need half the map for docks to get needed items, no fun.  There are certainly many things in that mod I want to try, really like those colorful town buildings.

Sorry to barge in, but I think about the cows and a small dairy.
I want black-white cows. I want a small dairy.
I don't want a new model for the cows. I want the old ones to
give milk, beef and leather. Black-white that is.  ;D

So, just curious. :) Should the dairy be built with wood?

@kid1293   send me a pm if you want the black and white cows :)

Thanks. Got it.
I am experimenting with vanilla cows.
Tell me you like it :)

@kid1293 , @RedKetchup , @Necora , @Abandoned @brads3
Thank you everyone :D  Great feedback and excellent ideas happening :) :)

Yes please, I say wood, it suits my purpose, and will ultimately suit the environment most players will put them in.  For a small farmlet, outpost, 'leanto' dairy, I think wood is perfect.
Maybe, if you wanted to add an F-Variant, a stone base, with wood sidings & roof, for those that want to mix it up a little.
:)

But, I'm happy with all options :D :D

moooooooooo I approve Kid of the cows :D

@kid1293 barge in anytime.  I'd like the small dairy to match your forest outpost, if an F-Variant then I think a match for your Colonial House mod, maybe weathered white or plimoth match.  Thanks ever so much.  Love Red's cows and red creamery.  Small one will be great for small maps and mountains.

I guess I didn't read your post very accurate @Abandoned .
This is not weathered white but it is sort of Colonial building.
I can make a white F-key variant if you want.

4x3+road / only wood to build / all products just like NMT and CC.
And the cows! Already approved and just what I want.
I changed the vanilla cattle (still named cattle) and added milk to them.
This means all sorts of problem with NMT or CC. You figure something out.
I only show this picture now and have a break (food and beer).
Maybe later a variant.

@kid1293 that small dairy looks real good, love the milk cans. Cows look great.  It certainly goes well with Colonial building set and with others building also.  A white F-key variant will be a nice alternative to use for variety.  The size is perfect.  My notes say Red's NMT has full size creamery and black and white cows and I guess CC does also.  Is it the cow name that is causing problem?  If so how about bovine, Holstein, or old Betsy.  Plus all the dairy products, great.  Thanks so much (and Red too for cow info).  I'm sure @QueryEverything will like small dairy as much as I do.

i think if you place this mod below CC,you still will have both kinds of cows.if you place above NMT then you will have black and white cows but both creameries should work. unless milk is somehow coded different also.

personally i prefer a dairy to make cheese,butter,cream randomly at the same time. and a creamery to be specific so you could make yogurts.

there aren't any milk cows in black and white??? i have CC,but thought there was a milk cow mod that changed the colors.

Sorry if this has already been answered, but CC does have the black and white Friesian cows. They produce milk.

Mine is just named 'cattle' as it is the vanilla cattle with new texture
and milk. No point renaming them. They are incompatible with
some things in NMT and CC since they do changes on vanilla too.


edit - seems like I can't upload a picture of  'almost white dairy' :)

@brads3 random dairy products sound good.  I think NMT has the black and white cows like the red creamery Red made.  I still have not tried NMT or CC or Fountain and a bunch of others.

@kid1293 the old milk cow on family farm was called Old Bessy not Betsy.

Here is my dairy in two versions.


edit - one way to improve it could be to separate the extension and table from the house
and have a residential house with a dairy addon.
That way it could be easy to add - say, an oven for baking bread as extension instead of
the extension and the milk table.

@kid1293 , the dairy and cows are wonderful.  Both work with no problem and both look great in game. The white dairy turned out really nice, both will match with just about any set. Tested on new test map with both dairies.  Good yield and no problems - beef, hide, milk, cheese, cream, & yogurt with berries. 

Both dairies would certainly look good as a house, then with extension, table and milk cans an optional addon with a small bakery as an alternative.  Sounds like the makings of a very nice family homestead. 

I'm in the middle of making something new from these houses.
Maybe I hit myself in the head later, but now I am having fun.

I have read other thread here in the forum and found that some
people want SMALL workplaces. ...and of course RedKetchup's
Country Little House gave me inspiration.

So why not chop this new fabulous building in pieces?  :o
I am on the way making it modular. Same placement of the
individual parts (if you want), but at least some use for the building.

A residental place, a storage and several small workplaces.
There will be, for a starter - dairyman, grinder (makes flour) and
a baker.
It is some time until I can have pictures. Busy writing the code.

I will have tany's Wild Oats and CC oats in addition to wheat and corn.
I will use CC recipe for bread, need butter, but now there will be
a dairy just around the corner.

And cows, did I mention cows?

i like a modular idea. am i asleep or am i missing the link to test this dairy??

Go back to sleep.  ;D

No, you didn't miss anything. This is what I am working on.
And it gave me ideas... (as usual)

I finished the 'small' dairy and thought - why not make it smaller. :)
Then I had a complete house I didn't want to waste. And therefore and hereafter...

Yeah, I like it modular too. It gives the possibility to make independent workplaces.
Can be used by themselves of course.  8)

hmm ABANDONED is confusing me then. i thought she said she was using it. but then she probly used her magic tree and stole it

@kid1293 modular ideas sounds really great, have fun with it.  You should enjoy what you are making because it shows in the end product.  @brads3 have a nice nap :)

i hope you guys when you are doing tiny things.... they arent as powerful as the big ones ?

Good thought @RedKetchup tiny should probably produce less.

@kid1293 since you mentioned tandy's wild oat, you might want to consider using her wild honey for honey buns or something.  A modular tailor for basic hide or wool for home industry would make sense too, Tandy's flax would be good for linen but causes some confusion with CC or that maritime mod I believe. Query would know more about that.  Good to have mod working with or without CC.

Quote from: RedKetchup on February 05, 2017, 12:06:01 PMwhen you are doing tiny things.... they arent as powerful as the big ones ?

It really depends, imo - for example, to stay with gatherer, hunter and foresters for a moment - if we use "tiny" structures for them (e.g. little shacks to replace the "useless" large-footprint buildings), I do not think they should be less powerful, as they only represent workplaces... we still need to build full-size housing and storage for them...?

i want to know what y'all did to my milk cows??? i already chased abandoned out of my pastures with alilac switch even. hmm i have a new glitch. i have 3 different cow animals in pastures: freishman cows,beef cows, and cow. and they dont work for more than 30 seconds after u build the pastures. i just spent too much time trying to find why. i rechecked the 2 new big mods by themself no cow.i rechecked the last save game,no cow.i tried mod order and turn off and on and restart and reload and restart several mods. still has cow.which 1 of u put cow in my game? only thing i can come up with is it is piggybacking onto a totally separate mod that should not have cow anyhow. storage crates??  this gremlin gave me a headach so he wins for today.