RedKetchup - Creamery

[Bobbi]

@RedKetchup, I want to have more variety in buildings to enhance the look of my towns, too. There are not enough various buildings. I have also stated I would like smaller iterations of existing buildings, such as school and church. A University could be really cool too, with graduates becoming even more efficient workers! A new market would be great, such a mod already exists, but it uses the same building as the tavern, and thus offers no variety to the "look" of the town. I would even like to see just some of the same old buildings but with new skins.
But back to your creamery. Is there a way to make it so that "dairy" is a new required food, so that without it you do not have full health and happiness? The degree of difficulty would then be increased, as well, satisfying those who do not want an easier game.
As far as making the cheese into a viable trade product, I don't see the problem with that, as long as it is not over the top. If we did not have the ability to have some decent trade items, what would be the purpose of trade after the first few years when you need certain seeds and livestock?

[RedKetchup]

do people prefer i put 24 milk for 8 cheese(at 6 value = 48 trade units) and 24 milk for 12 whey (at 4 value = 48 trade units) ? so we can make a 100% profit ? (ale has 266.66%)

[RedKetchup]

sorry @Bobbi i didnt see your reply, maybe done as i posted, or didnt see there was another page.

to your question.. i dont know if it s possible. maybe. it needs reflexion

in my last tests i added a new type kind , a new flag: QualityGoods and i gave my cheese material this flag (along with edible | protein) and i tried to ask the creamery to act a bit like a tavern. i was hoping people would also take 1 cheese and eat it at creamery like people do at tavern

didnt worked, nothing seems happening. :S


does anyone noticed if tavern really work as intendent ? when a Citizen take an ale at tavern, does he really get a +1 or a + 1/2 star ? or it s there only to waste your ale with a worthless behavior ?

[irrelevant]

"...32 milk units per drop...."

Can you please explain one more time what a "drop" is?

[irrelevant]

does anyone noticed if tavern really work as intendent ? when a Citizen take an ale at tavern, does he really get a +1 or a + 1/2 star ? or it s there only to waste your ale with a worthless behavior ?

I think it increases happiness just by being there, regardless of whether anyone gets any ale or not.

[RedKetchup]

"...32 milk units per drop...."

Can you please explain one more time what a "drop" is?

each time a milk ressource 'appear' in the pasture (like wool for sheep or eggs for chicken) there is an amount associated with. so when 'it pops' and you get something.  here, it is 32 units of milk that drop on the ground, beneath the animal shelter of the pasture. a Citizen go pick it up and there is 32 milks units inside the bucket.


probably the expression "drop" comes from certain games. when you kill something, it "drops" a loot, a reward. and it "drops" on the ground, where the oppenent was. i think thats the origin of 'drop' 'dropping' ^^

[irrelevant]

And what is the normal frequency of a drop? Times per year per how many cattle?

[RedKetchup]

And what is the normal frequency of a drop? Times per year per how many cattle?

i dunno it s random, sometimes another one drop faster than another time, and sometime one drop slower than another time.

around 500 milk per year total for a 10x20 (10 cows), seems to get a bit more than double than that in a 20x20 (20 cows) like 1400.


gimme test to do:

say the XX per XX with how many herdmen . and i ll do 2 full year and post the screenshot.

[irrelevant]

That would be great, thanks. Say a 10x20 with ten cattle and one herdsman, that's pretty vanilla.

[RedKetchup]

in wait of your reply i did 9-10 years at 20x20x 2 herdmen.

year1 : 8 to 8 cows : 3/4Y : 432 milk
year2 : 8 to 13 cows: 1year : 768 milk
year3 : 13to18 cows: 1year : 1120 milk
year4 : 18to20 cows: 1year : 1504 milk 18 leather 600 beef
year5 : 20to20 cows: 1year : 1600 milk 30 leather 1000 beef
year6 : 20to20 cows: 1year : 1568 milk 30 leather 1000 beef
year7 : 20to20 cows: 1year : 1536 milk 18 leather 600 beef
year8 : 20to20 cows: 1year : 1568 milk 12 leather 400 beef
year9 : 20to20 cows: 1year : 1600 milk 42 leather 1400 beef

going to make sammiches and i ll run same for a 10x20x1worker

[irrelevant]

So a "drop" seems to occur at a random interval of time that is centered on some constant value.

[RedKetchup]

alright your test : 10x20 x1 worker :

year1 : 8 to 8 cows : 3/4Y : 320 milk
year2 : 8 to 10 cows: 1year : 704 milk 12 leather 400 beef
year3 : 10to10 cows: 1year : 832 milk 24 leather 800 beef
year4 : 10to10 cows: 1year : 800 milk 12 leather 400 beef
year5 : 10to10 cows: 1year : 800 milk 30 leather 1000 beef
year6 : 10to10 cows: 1year : 768 milk 12 leather 400 beef
year7 : 10to10 cows: 1year : 832 milk 18 leather 600 beef
year8 : 10to10 cows: 1year : 768 milk 18 leather 600 beef

so the numbers at 32 milk per drop seems 1600 for 20x20 and 800 for a 10x20. around 80 milk per head

at little school they teached us to make crossed multiplications, algebrea
if i put back to 24 per drop :

x=1600x24 / 32 , so 1200 for a 20x20 and
x=800x24 / 32 , so 600 for a 10x20


Now, since i passed some time on that
i want you to comment those numbers
and i ask you to tell me if those number are good ? too many? not enough ?

i want a 3-4 sentences from you at, least, for your comments

[irrelevant]

I will comment later this evening, just now I am getting ready to drive home from work =]

[RedKetchup]

k i m counting on you   

[RedKetchup]

from the screenshot about a 20x20 feeding a full staff 2 worker Creamery :

i ve got as numbers : 272, 272, 272, 248, 264, 224, 248 cheese units. looks like the 20x20 wasnt enough to full time the creamery, it would have took another 10x20, i think.

so, should I put only 1 worker ? or keep it up at 2  workers?

whats about those numbers ? it sells for 6 trade unit, and if you place a special order on those, they sell it to you at 7 trade units each.